But why can we not mentor people in the church? Why should we have to create an app that people will subscribe to before being mentored? Every man of God is a mentor to the church God has committed in his hand, so why should we have to create an app for it
They set up a church, take and collect money from people and members, then use the money to start businesses people and members cannot afford. Welcome to fraud
With due respect to Rev Kes..I understand "Pastor" Kingsley on THIS issue…on the "Tatoo" issue I disagree but in this one I could agree. But like every thing ( e.g. when Pastor Kumuyu said TVs were demonic in the 1970s) this could be abused!! It's the sign of our times, generation and dispensation. So I tell "brethren" these days..know WHO REALLY leads you…ESPECIALLY in the WORD. and know your "mentors" in all areas of life, career, marriage, relationship, finance etc
my problem is why do we have to attack each other online , the world is entering a kairos things are shifting and Christians are still arguing online if we are a body cant we resolve this issues internally hmm
Yes, and at the end of the day, it’s a dating site.
It’s all semantics. The same things that happen on Tinder or any other dating site can happen there as well.
Sometimes, you just have to own it with your full chest and acknowledge that it is a business, and businesses need to charge for their services to operate sustainably.
It has nothing to do with the church or mentoring. Those are separate things. Being connected to the church or having a mentoring aspect does not change the fact that it is still a dating site and a business.
Mr Kingsley has never impressed me as a pastor. He is a businessman who chose a pastor personality to attract clients. He claimed to be a relationship coach. He had tattoo tattoos and now on another episode; more will follow as he becomes exposed
He has said it is not a dating site but a mentorship site and definitely you can network with fellow people under the mentorship which is a good place to meet people
You all lack knowledge: Bible schools is not free. Christian University is not free.. even the Bible, you pay money to buy the Bible. So what are we not saying..
Christians are shouting and saying He is charging and he should not be doing this kind of website…. BUT LOTS OF YOU ARE ON BADOO AND TINDER, CHRISTIANS ARE THERE DOING HOOKUP AND CHASING WOMEN, CHASING MEN.
From the beginning,I never see or believed Kingsley to be a pastor, so nothing he does surprises me at all. Allow business man to do his business biko. But adding Jesus or Christian to what he does that is not biblical is the problem. Christian dating site bawo? If you are to mentor just people under you or those close to you,it's more accountable. But marriage is a serious thing, you think you are mentoring them,yet they marry and nonsense starts,are they going to see you as a spiritual head or a physical head? Na wa ooo
It's not whether it is monetized or free that is the problem. The problem is the audience. When we have a generation that will not seek God anymore, this is what happens. You will put money in the pockets of thieve's.
Holier than thou in the comment section, he says it is more of a mentoring group , and most christians are never ready to learn but you think you know it all
Let us respect our individuality as a body. We all are not called to be the same. The heart behind the app is needful & Sincere, but if used at an extreme without God's guidance it will be wrong. The app gets u to be seen or to see but prayer helps your discernment to know the right person after you've seen. it the reason a pastor is on social media platforms with his message not only to reach more people but to be seen by many for followership.
Let's all do and speak in Love and good understanding. God needs us unified. We are not to be taking sides in the comment section we ought to leave words of prayer and mercy declarations. Even Jesus said who made him judge over our affairs while he was on earth. We don't see Fathers attacking each other in public. What is supposed to be an advantage to us is now looking like a platform for banter. Silence sometimes a wisdom option
Most people saying PK is wrong can’t even pray for 10mins, they can stay days or weeks without morning devotion if at all they know anything called that, they can’t remember the last time they study the Bible on their own, they have studied no material on marriage, they don’t have a mentor in any area of their lives, they are not even committed in their local churches, they don’t know how to hear from God then a Pastor is trying to make things easy for you and you are complaining. If you pray and study the scripture like Pastor Kesiena then you are free to criticize. But know that God won’t come down to make your marriage work or give you a spouse.
And the last time I checked ‘DATING’ is not an unbeliever word. Pastors have written books on dating, seminars are organized in churches on dating. Why is PK different???
Once it's part of what God has written of him to accomplish here on earth, He is good. If not, then, It's all a waste of time. He says it's not a dating site but a mentoring one. That's value which is needed cos People need mentorship to save them from making terrible relationship mistakes.
Frankly, it will do us a lot of good as Christians to be mindful of jumping into making hurried critical statements about things when we're not so clear about the facts.
When Pastor Kingsley released this info, he never said it's a dating site. People quickly labelled it what it isn't for rage baiting purpose, and guess what, a lot more people didn't even bother to check the veracity of the dating claims before reacting sternly to what they heard.
This kind of behavior creates division in the body of Christ. Let he that is wise stop tearing the the body down.
It’s a service- marriage coaching and mentoring, not a church service. 😁There’ll be overheads. Why should it be free? Bible schools, Christian schools etc are not free now. That fee is nothing to be compared with what we ladies pay annually to maintain ourselves lol. Even talking as a married woman and marriage mentor. Sometimes free is not valued nor appreciated! It’s not for everyone actually.
Lot pinched his tenth towards Sodom before moving into Sodom,,,
But why can we not mentor people in the church? Why should we have to create an app that people will subscribe to before being mentored? Every man of God is a mentor to the church God has committed in his hand, so why should we have to create an app for it
This is abomination sir. Is it in the bible pastor. Mentoring kee. Oh God have mercy on us😢😢
Well
I can say both pastors are right and true in tbeir own way
I totally agree witg both of them at the same time
Very true MOG❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ AND
They set up a church, take and collect money from people and members, then use the money to start businesses people and members cannot afford. Welcome to fraud
With due respect to Rev Kes..I understand "Pastor" Kingsley on THIS issue…on the "Tatoo" issue I disagree but in this one I could agree. But like every thing ( e.g. when Pastor Kumuyu said TVs were demonic in the 1970s) this could be abused!!
It's the sign of our times, generation and dispensation.
So I tell "brethren" these days..know WHO REALLY leads you…ESPECIALLY in the WORD. and know your "mentors" in all areas of life, career, marriage, relationship, finance etc
Pastor Kingsley people will always have their own opinion more grace sir
my problem is why do we have to attack each other online , the world is entering a kairos things are shifting and Christians are still arguing online if we are a body cant we resolve this issues internally hmm
Sometimes, it's good to understand the motive or essence of something before you make comments about them.
Yes, and at the end of the day, it’s a dating site.
It’s all semantics. The same things that happen on Tinder or any other dating site can happen there as well.
Sometimes, you just have to own it with your full chest and acknowledge that it is a business, and businesses need to charge for their services to operate sustainably.
It has nothing to do with the church or mentoring. Those are separate things. Being connected to the church or having a mentoring aspect does not change the fact that it is still a dating site and a business.
Mr Kingsley has never impressed me as a pastor. He is a businessman who chose a pastor personality to attract clients. He claimed to be a relationship coach. He had tattoo tattoos and now on another episode; more will follow as he becomes exposed
He has said it is not a dating site but a mentorship site and definitely you can network with fellow people under the mentorship which is a good place to meet people
Oga pastor Kingsley, be careful of your actions in the body of Christ. Just imagine Jesus running a professional dating site hmmm!?
You all lack knowledge: Bible schools is not free. Christian University is not free.. even the Bible, you pay money to buy the Bible. So what are we not saying..
It is a Christian match making site
Na side hustle
Christians are shouting and saying He is charging and he should not be doing this kind of website…. BUT LOTS OF YOU ARE ON BADOO AND TINDER, CHRISTIANS ARE THERE DOING HOOKUP AND CHASING WOMEN, CHASING MEN.
You do it in secret… Keep deceiving yourself
From the beginning,I never see or believed Kingsley to be a pastor, so nothing he does surprises me at all. Allow business man to do his business biko. But adding Jesus or Christian to what he does that is not biblical is the problem. Christian dating site bawo?
If you are to mentor just people under you or those close to you,it's more accountable. But marriage is a serious thing, you think you are mentoring them,yet they marry and nonsense starts,are they going to see you as a spiritual head or a physical head? Na wa ooo
It's not whether it is monetized or free that is the problem. The problem is the audience. When we have a generation that will not seek God anymore, this is what happens. You will put money in the pockets of thieve's.
Holier than thou in the comment section, he says it is more of a mentoring group , and most christians are never ready to learn but you think you know it all
My church…
Let us respect our individuality as a body. We all are not called to be the same. The heart behind the app is needful & Sincere, but if used at an extreme without God's guidance it will be wrong. The app gets u to be seen or to see but prayer helps your discernment to know the right person after you've seen. it the reason a pastor is on social media platforms with his message not only to reach more people but to be seen by many for followership.
Let's all do and speak in Love and good understanding. God needs us unified. We are not to be taking sides in the comment section we ought to leave words of prayer and mercy declarations. Even Jesus said who made him judge over our affairs while he was on earth. We don't see Fathers attacking each other in public. What is supposed to be an advantage to us is now looking like a platform for banter. Silence sometimes a wisdom option
Most people saying PK is wrong can’t even pray for 10mins, they can stay days or weeks without morning devotion if at all they know anything called that, they can’t remember the last time they study the Bible on their own, they have studied no material on marriage, they don’t have a mentor in any area of their lives, they are not even committed in their local churches, they don’t know how to hear from God then a Pastor is trying to make things easy for you and you are complaining. If you pray and study the scripture like Pastor Kesiena then you are free to criticize. But know that God won’t come down to make your marriage work or give you a spouse.
And the last time I checked ‘DATING’ is not an unbeliever word. Pastors have written books on dating, seminars are organized in churches on dating. Why is PK different???
Heaven is watching us. Selah!
Once it's part of what God has written of him to accomplish here on earth, He is good. If not, then, It's all a waste of time. He says it's not a dating site but a mentoring one. That's value which is needed cos People need mentorship to save them from making terrible relationship mistakes.
On this, I agree with Pastor Kingsley
Frankly, it will do us a lot of good as Christians to be mindful of jumping into making hurried critical statements about things when we're not so clear about the facts.
When Pastor Kingsley released this info, he never said it's a dating site. People quickly labelled it what it isn't for rage baiting purpose, and guess what, a lot more people didn't even bother to check the veracity of the dating claims before reacting sternly to what they heard.
This kind of behavior creates division in the body of Christ. Let he that is wise stop tearing the the body down.
Shalom!
So you now pay to be mentored? What a strategy.
It’s a service- marriage coaching and mentoring, not a church service. 😁There’ll be overheads. Why should it be free? Bible schools, Christian schools etc are not free now. That fee is nothing to be compared with what we ladies pay annually to maintain ourselves lol. Even talking as a married woman and marriage mentor. Sometimes free is not valued nor appreciated! It’s not for everyone actually.
I don't support a pastor opening a dating site the pastor primary goal is to lure souls to Christ not this rubbish..
Lord have mercy upon this generation…
Special thanks to the meek tone of voice from Pst K, not a resentful or malicious backlash.
No bi everything need tear shirt.This is how we need to all learn to answer in the body, in the light of accountability.
May God continue to bless you sir, for me this is over explanation,i love you and your ministry excluding tattoo things
More grace Sir. Just do your thing