Well… the “dude” may have been in touch with reality (far more so than Knechtle), felt compassion for others and was willing to sacrifice himself (military people have also done so throughout human history) but there are other “problems” with Cliffe’s 4 reasons.
“He lived a sinless life”… Wrong. Knechtle has No independent empirical evidence to prove Jesus lived a “sinless” life. Cliffe is falsely concluding that based upon ancient rumor & folklore. The claims of others… period. 2. Jesus “taught amazing teachings”… there (again) is No evidence that what the ancient Jewish rabbi taught were original & authentic from Jesus. Jesus more likely picked up “values” from other cultures that even predated his own life or consider the possibility that Jesus and his followers were just an ancient example of the mid20th century phenomenon of HIPPIES teaching new ideas such as “free love”. That’s far more likely than Jesus being the physical manifestation of some supernatural god ! 3. It is true Jesus died (all things eventually “die”) but the exact details of that are not Truly known !! That’s just a story. 4. There is No evidence of Any human being dead for 3 days coming back to life ! Those claims are ALL hearsay and rumor based upon ancient Ignorance ! It is physically impossible (and everyone Should know this if they’ve had high school science biology) that once an “animal” body ceases all bodily functions, the individual cells of the body begin to breakdown into their constituent chemicals after being deprived of oxygen & nutrition !! (That’s all that “goop” that police & coroners find when looking for missing & dead people.)
So, right there I have to conclude that Knechtle (in fact ALL believers of such nonsense) must be one of the most naive adults on this planet. I’ve addressed every example Cliffe gave and it should be plain that his reasons are Groundless !
Here are the three steps that are needed to get saved and be right with God who loved us all, for eternal life with him!
As everyone and anyone can get saved! 🙂
1- Admit that you’re a sinner and be willing to turn from your own self righteousness to God (Psalms 5: 4-5, 24: 3, Romans 3: 23).
Psalms 5: 4-5 (KJB)
4."For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee."
5."The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity."
Psalms 24: 3 (KJB)
"Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?"
Romans 3: 23 (KJB)
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.”
2- Believe onto Jesus Christ, who being the only begotten Son of God He loved, died on the cross, was buried and resurrected for the full forgiveness of our sins, all as a freely given gift out of God’s genuine love towards us sinners (Romans 5: 8-9, 1 John 4: 9-10, 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4).
Romans 5: 8-9 (KJB)
8. “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
9."Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."
1 John 4: 9-10 (KJB)
9."In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him."
10."Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins."
1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 (KJB)
1."Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2."By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.”
3."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
4."And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
3- Confess onto God, asking to be saved accepting this loving free gift of salvation, to start a new life of being born again, after being saved and forgiven from all your sins (Romans 10: 9-10+13, John 3: 15-17, Ephesians 2: 8-9). 🙂
Romans 10: 9-10+13 (KJB)
9. “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
10."For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
13."For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
John 3: 15-17 (KJB)
15."That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."
16."For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
17."For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
Ephesians 2: 8-9 (KJB)
8."For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"
9."Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
4- Otherwise you will have to pay the wages for any/all of your sins, on your own, which is to face Gods eternal judgment, of burning forever in hell, to not be able to sin before God ever again (Hebrews 9: 27-28, Revelation 21: 8, 14: 10-11 Romans 6: 23).
Hebrews 9: 27-28 (KJB)
27."And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"
28."So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
Revelation 21: 8 (KJB)
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
from Revelation 14: 10-11 (KJB)
10."The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:"
11."And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night”
Romans 6: 23 (KJB)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
(Lastly an example of what to pray to God to get saved and forgiven of your sins.)
“Dear God, I am a sinner and need saving.
I know I’m not good enough to get to heaven and I need you to save me.
I need the righteousness of your son, Jesus Christ.I believe that Jesus is the Lord, who died, was buried and resurrected so that his precious blood can wash away my sins.
I grew up in religion. I do believe in God. I just struggle with certain things. Adam and Eve. They had to eat the fruit. They were set up to fail. If they didn't we would not be here. Then they get cast out. They have kids. Then right off the bat humans kill. Cane kills able. We went right to murder. It just gets worse and more confusing from there.
We have free agency. You can't have that if god already knows the end chapter. Wars in heaven. Explain that to me. You don't have a body. You can't die. If it was so great there. Why would lucifer rebel. Why would people follow him. I know why he rebelled. I know the stories. It had to happen. That takes away your free agency.
We didnt ask god to create us. He does it anyway. Then he creates a world full of evil. Then you are scared into living a certain way or you will burn for all of eternity. I didnt ask to be created.
This pastor is a soldier of God, may he live long and prosper, continuing to save lives and bringing spiritual truth to a world of ignorance and suffering. In fact having most of their questions answered, most people should realise, this is not a world of suffering, not when you know there is an Ultimate gift of eternity, promised to you, but even more importantly that there is an Ultimate force of Love and guidance awaiting your every waking moment just on the other side of the vail, that moment you truelly let down your gaurd and kneel down to the Lord our saviour, that moment you will know that there is TRUELLY no suffering at all.
Sorry guys you may have missed the elephant in the room e.g. the late great Dr Barbara Thiering she has all the receipts and proves the true grown up version of the history of the church and the real teachings of Jesus. Just open your mind and question embedded biases that hold many to ransom. I challenge anybody anyone to test me ! But be prepared and do a little homework by actually reading some of her work !
My name is Lisandro Perez I am from Miami Dade Florida, we are believers in God we have come under attack by a group of out of control masons they do not like us…they are satanist and some are even serial killers we need help to sell our apartment and move to Texas…please help us…ask God to show you anything if you are doubtful and he will show you. God bless you.
Can you give me an argument for why I should believe that Christianity is the one and only truth that does not
1) presuppose the truth of the Bible
2) rely on personal experience/interpretation
And 3) does not rely on "but what if you're wrong?"
Evil exists because good exists.
Even the Synoptic Gospels aren't….synoptic.
I'm too Optimistic to be a Christian! – Stevie Ray Basilides
You didnt explain trinity. Thats the main question that make people question Christianity
Well… the “dude” may have been in touch with reality (far more so than Knechtle), felt compassion for others and was willing to sacrifice himself (military people have also done so throughout human history) but there are other “problems” with Cliffe’s 4 reasons.
“He lived a sinless life”… Wrong. Knechtle has No independent empirical evidence to prove Jesus lived a “sinless” life. Cliffe is falsely concluding that based upon ancient rumor & folklore. The claims of others… period. 2. Jesus “taught amazing teachings”… there (again) is No evidence that what the ancient Jewish rabbi taught were original & authentic from Jesus. Jesus more likely picked up “values” from other cultures that even predated his own life or consider the possibility that Jesus and his followers were just an ancient example of the mid20th century phenomenon of HIPPIES teaching new ideas such as “free love”. That’s far more likely than Jesus being the physical manifestation of some supernatural god !
3. It is true Jesus died (all things eventually “die”) but the exact details of that are not Truly known !! That’s just a story. 4. There is No evidence of Any human being dead for 3 days coming back to life ! Those claims are ALL hearsay and rumor based upon ancient Ignorance ! It is physically impossible (and everyone Should know this if they’ve had high school science biology) that once an “animal” body ceases all bodily functions, the individual cells of the body begin to breakdown into their constituent chemicals after being deprived of oxygen & nutrition !! (That’s all that “goop” that police & coroners find when looking for missing & dead people.)
So, right there I have to conclude that Knechtle (in fact ALL believers of such nonsense) must be one of the most naive adults on this planet. I’ve addressed every example Cliffe gave and it should be plain that his reasons are Groundless !
Here are the three steps that are needed to get saved and be right with God who loved us all, for eternal life with him!
As everyone and anyone can get saved! 🙂
1- Admit that you’re a sinner and be willing to turn from your own self righteousness to God (Psalms 5: 4-5, 24: 3, Romans 3: 23).
Psalms 5: 4-5 (KJB)
4."For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee."
5."The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity."
Psalms 24: 3 (KJB)
"Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?"
Romans 3: 23 (KJB)
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.”
2- Believe onto Jesus Christ, who being the only begotten Son of God He loved, died on the cross, was buried and resurrected for the full forgiveness of our sins, all as a freely given gift out of God’s genuine love towards us sinners (Romans 5: 8-9, 1 John 4: 9-10, 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4).
Romans 5: 8-9 (KJB)
8. “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
9."Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."
1 John 4: 9-10 (KJB)
9."In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him."
10."Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins."
1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 (KJB)
1."Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2."By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.”
3."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
4."And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
3- Confess onto God, asking to be saved accepting this loving free gift of salvation, to start a new life of being born again, after being saved and forgiven from all your sins (Romans 10: 9-10+13, John 3: 15-17, Ephesians 2: 8-9). 🙂
Romans 10: 9-10+13 (KJB)
9. “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
10."For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
13."For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
John 3: 15-17 (KJB)
15."That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."
16."For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
17."For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
Ephesians 2: 8-9 (KJB)
8."For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"
9."Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
4- Otherwise you will have to pay the wages for any/all of your sins, on your own, which is to face Gods eternal judgment, of burning forever in hell, to not be able to sin before God ever again (Hebrews 9: 27-28, Revelation 21: 8, 14: 10-11 Romans 6: 23).
Hebrews 9: 27-28 (KJB)
27."And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"
28."So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
Revelation 21: 8 (KJB)
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
from Revelation 14: 10-11 (KJB)
10."The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:"
11."And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night”
Romans 6: 23 (KJB)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
(Lastly an example of what to pray to God to get saved and forgiven of your sins.)
“Dear God, I am a sinner and need saving.
I know I’m not good enough to get to heaven and I need you to save me.
I need the righteousness of your son, Jesus Christ.I believe that Jesus is the Lord, who died, was buried and resurrected so that his precious blood can wash away my sins.
I trust in him alone to save me.
Nothing else.
Not my good works or anything else.
Only Jesus.
I pray this in Jesus’ name, Amen.”
I grew up in religion. I do believe in God. I just struggle with certain things. Adam and Eve. They had to eat the fruit. They were set up to fail. If they didn't we would not be here. Then they get cast out. They have kids. Then right off the bat humans kill. Cane kills able. We went right to murder. It just gets worse and more confusing from there.
We have free agency. You can't have that if god already knows the end chapter. Wars in heaven. Explain that to me. You don't have a body. You can't die. If it was so great there. Why would lucifer rebel. Why would people follow him. I know why he rebelled. I know the stories. It had to happen. That takes away your free agency.
Do we really have free agency.
I'm a true believer that religion is the devils greatest weapon. I never understood why you can hate someone just for there faith.
When god created us. Why could we not just stay in heaven . Why was it so important we gain a body. We were already in heaven.
We didnt ask god to create us. He does it anyway. Then he creates a world full of evil. Then you are scared into living a certain way or you will burn for all of eternity. I didnt ask to be created.
God Bless U!
I would like to ask if God gave freewill to demons and ungodly beings too?
This pastor is a soldier of God, may he live long and prosper, continuing to save lives and bringing spiritual truth to a world of ignorance and suffering. In fact having most of their questions answered, most people should realise, this is not a world of suffering, not when you know there is an Ultimate gift of eternity, promised to you, but even more importantly that there is an Ultimate force of Love and guidance awaiting your every waking moment just on the other side of the vail, that moment you truelly let down your gaurd and kneel down to the Lord our saviour, that moment you will know that there is TRUELLY no suffering at all.
I do have a question 🙋🏼♀️ so the evil comes from people abusing free will. What about causing accidentally harm/death?
Wonderful presentation 👏
Great questions that I have right now as I’m reading the Bible, thank you cliff
What if you're wrong?
Sorry guys you may have missed the elephant in the room e.g. the late great Dr Barbara Thiering she has all the receipts and proves the true grown up version of the history of the church and the real teachings of Jesus. Just open your mind and question embedded biases that hold many to ransom. I challenge anybody anyone to test me ! But be prepared and do a little homework by actually reading some of her work !
Good video needed this 🤙
My name is Lisandro Perez I am from Miami Dade Florida, we are believers in God we have come under attack by a group of out of control masons they do not like us…they are satanist and some are even serial killers we need help to sell our apartment and move to Texas…please help us…ask God to show you anything if you are doubtful and he will show you. God bless you.
"Even a hypothesis has to have some factual basis , some factual evidence indicating that it might be true."
Nathaniel BrandenYesh, this fast talking approach is ridiculous.
Explain the support for slavery on leviticus. Even if you say its OT, Jesus never moderated views about slavery.