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I wish my parents would've chosen abortion sometimes. I have the type of autism where I think everyone is a miunderstood good person. I get into tramatic situations of rape, abuse and robbery all the time. I wish I wasn't born sometimes. Life doesn't suck, but I wish I could tell if people want to harm me or not
I haven't watched thru the whole video yet, therefore i don't know if you will touch on that but in case you don't i will write it here: There is also an interview with the real Austin and his dad about austins movie that's really painful to watch. Everytime austin tries to talk they talk over him, laugh about him and even pull the mike out of his hands when he tries to reccomend some movies he likes. It's super infantilising and horrible to see. They talk with his dad about Austin as if he isn't even in the room with them. Poor Austin. I also heard another person that covered this movie in a video say that she thinks that Austin maybe tries to be such a happy jester because that's maybe the only way he can be really accepted as his autistic self. Even by his family. That his autism is only okay for him to "have" when it can make the people around him feel better about themselves. And i kinda get that feeling too when i watch these interviews and see how they treat him. His dad isn't better too. He wrote the book so that other neurotypicals can see what a challenge Austins autism is for his parents and not so that other autistic people feel more comfortable with their autistic selfs. Every exerpt of that book i have seen by now just reads super sad. I just want to give a big hug to Austin whenever i read how horrible he sees autism on himself. Like a disease to overcome. It's just sad.
46:46 to be fair, getting divorced twice and marrying a third time is usually seen as a bad sign. Of course, the context matters (death of a spouse, abuse, etc) but on a surface level, it’s not the best look on your resume.
There's a WHOLE vein of Christianity that hates autism for the same reason it hates Paganism and Judaism: the way American Christianity is set up: it's the endgoal. So anything that makes you doubt or question that is instantly evil. Autism expresses in many diverse and wonderful/strange ways, but one of the main things is wanting to know WHY and HOW things work. And not being content with "because White American Jesus set the stars in-motion."
Same thing with Judiasm and Paganism: both are built on questioning the status quo and authority. It's why authoritative/authoritarian religious movements target them, and autistic people, first and foremost.
NGL the book really reads like an autistic man who is in denial he's autistic. He has different fixations from his son, but he still has trouble communicating, fixates on things, recalls random stuff, and does the things he describes his kid doing.
The podcast behind the b*stards goes into RFK and they theorize the worms were probably from the time he was "recovering" from his addiction by his friends taking him to the rainforest and putting him in charge of the emergency pain medication (which he immediately used recreationally). He spent a lot of that time eating random meat (for no reason they were good on food) including rat eyeballs. Their source is his biography.
The first time he was talking about the worms was during a court case involving his ex wife. He was attempting to argue he should not have to pay alimony bc he would in theory never make money again bc he couldnt work properly bc of the damage the brain worms had done. Leaves us with a couple of options: he was lying so he wouldnt have to pay his ex wife or he is currently in charge of all of our health in spite of the fact that he himself has argued that he shouldnt be working bc of his brain damage. None of this is gonna bite him in the butt bc his wife unalived herself in the middle of the divorce preceedings.
it's valid to be annoyed with your kid no matter what. unless they turn out to be a murderer or equivalent it's not valid to put it into the public like this. if you start your movie/book with complaining about how your kid talks too much and making it come out of their mouth you are bitter. this reading is helped by him including that his was was married twice. that's bitterness and entitlement. and of course he's anti-vax. the parent of an autistic kid because "VaCcInEs CaUsE aUtIsM" (they super don't. their favourite not doctor had the chance to do a study to prove if it did and he turned it down) doesn't accept the autism as part of their kid. and that lack of acceptance, that searching for anything to blame, i can only describe as bitter.
Reading that "note from austin" is the first time that a disabled child having deep self-loathing and wishing he didnt exist is the best case scenario.
This crap upsets me. Its parental martyrdom and autistic burden narrative among groups that still want to present as saints while treating autism as a disease.
I grew up with a severely autistic brother. I at way too young became a co-caregiver (8 I was helping make us dinner while either parent got off work. But I also witnessed my brother get a lot of support that my mom just didnt have patience to keep up. Like he has mild ASL knowledge, but my mom wasnt going to learn. Also other habits that endangered both of us, but I had to be a little adult my entire life.
These stories paint the autism as the worst thing. And adults dont worsen things for their children, the stress worsens the adults to underserve their child.
For all her mistakes, my mom considers my brother a gift. If anything shes sometimes shittier to me and that maybe I dont belong in the world because of its intolerance, despite her showing signs of it too.
To me, the moment where Austin is yelling frantically and exuberantly about how good a milkshake is after his broken family is tentatively repaired (and their fights blame him and his medical expenses and disability) reads like a child trying desperately to act like everything is good and fine to hold the broken pieces of their family together. The author of the story is so unperceptive about his autistic son that he blames everything aberrant his son does as “autistic behavior” and patronizingly really believes the milkshake just is that good, and that Austin lives in this perfect little world of simple pleasures. Meanwhile, Austin apparently expresses self hatred for himself and how he was made and the other “non disabled” son is this quiet, perfectly well behaved kid—both of these children fit different behavior profiles of children trying to adapt and survive profoundly dis functional and traumatic homes. The hints we get about the mother’s abusive upbringing and own guilt about her disabilities and the fathers inability to see his sons fully or comprehend their efforts to keep the family together and stable because he and his wife aren’t speaks to his complete disconnect from the reality of his family. Austin isn’t merely a babbling, senseless “autistic” child, who is too imaginative—he is a child using imaginative play to escape from the harsh reality of his every day life and who anxiously and constantly tries to express connection and optimism through speech to overlay the brokenness in his family with an affirmation of his own, while his brother has learned the coping mechanism of staying quiet and perfect and out of sight, because if you are abnormal or “disabled” like Austin then you cause problems with the family. Truly tragic, and this gross and twisted story shows the inadequate mind of its writer which refuses to comprehend the pain of his family because all that matters is his own shallow understanding of his own pain.
46:47 Not to defend the dad, cause the dad sucks ass, but i do think the mom hiding the fact she was married twice WAS a fuck up on her part. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with haven had past relationships or previous marriages, youre allowed to fall in love and sometimes things dont work out. What WAS wrong was that she lied about it for 13 years. Like, surely they must have talked about their past partners in all that time and she chose to never tell him. And these are LEGAL marriages, we dont know who she married, so for all we know, these men could return and try to disrupt the family she has NOW. It DOES affect them. Relationships are built on trust and if your partner lies about something serious, you lose that trust. You show that youre willing to lie about something super important if it could reflect negatively on you. And thats not great, ESPECIALLY if you have kids to worry about
sorry the part that took me out was when he came into the kitchen claiming he had a MIGRAINE and the parents both looked at him like hes annoying and not like thats an oddly specific and alarming description of pain for their autistic and brittle bone'd child to be saying??? and then no one helps him with the migraine? and then we put him on the swings, which makes migraines worse????
Why would the kid seeing the kite as a dragon be weird??? I'd think a normal parent would just go along with it??? Like "yup, it's a big dragon flying around and we have to slay it!" Or something.
The kid's just using his imagination, I don't understand why that would be "concerning"
So, a huge concern about this movie for me. The dad comes across as very autistic in the book. Given autism is genetic, the suspicion rises. Often this leads to worse outcomes for the child cause of a "I had to learn to be normal so they do to" mentality. Pluss in the book, the dad has some serious issues with the way he handles things related to this.
I 100% think the dad wrote that letter, but either way it shows Austin was raised in an extremely concerning if not downright abusive environment. “Logan can ride a dirt bike because he doesn’t have autism.” No honey, Logan can ride dirt bikes because he doesn’t have bone disease, autism has no bearing on that and if your parents have never made that clear to you it’s because they are shitty.
26:30 Im sorry are we all just gonna gloss over the part where this little kid say he loves fight club? The movie which involves a scene where a guy finds a …ahem…toy in airport luggage, another guy splicing in Adult Content into random movies actual boobs are shown, and oh yeah MULTIPLE love scenes happen on screen?!?!? WHO THE HELL LETS THEIR KIDS WATCH THAT STUFF? MIGHT AS WELL SHOW THEM ANTICHRIST AND GAME OF THRONES WHILE YOUR AT IT!
I wish my parents would've chosen abortion sometimes. I have the type of autism where I think everyone is a miunderstood good person. I get into tramatic situations of rape, abuse and robbery all the time. I wish I wasn't born sometimes. Life doesn't suck, but I wish I could tell if people want to harm me or not
55:33 dude my sister would not be talking me back into being with someone like that. Honestly kind of weird
I haven't watched thru the whole video yet, therefore i don't know if you will touch on that but in case you don't i will write it here: There is also an interview with the real Austin and his dad about austins movie that's really painful to watch. Everytime austin tries to talk they talk over him, laugh about him and even pull the mike out of his hands when he tries to reccomend some movies he likes. It's super infantilising and horrible to see. They talk with his dad about Austin as if he isn't even in the room with them. Poor Austin. I also heard another person that covered this movie in a video say that she thinks that Austin maybe tries to be such a happy jester because that's maybe the only way he can be really accepted as his autistic self. Even by his family. That his autism is only okay for him to "have" when it can make the people around him feel better about themselves. And i kinda get that feeling too when i watch these interviews and see how they treat him. His dad isn't better too. He wrote the book so that other neurotypicals can see what a challenge Austins autism is for his parents and not so that other autistic people feel more comfortable with their autistic selfs. Every exerpt of that book i have seen by now just reads super sad. I just want to give a big hug to Austin whenever i read how horrible he sees autism on himself. Like a disease to overcome. It's just sad.
1:07:59 yep yep yep. Honestly, if this movie was from the perspective of the wife it would definitely be a pro-choice masterpiece
46:46 to be fair, getting divorced twice and marrying a third time is usually seen as a bad sign. Of course, the context matters (death of a spouse, abuse, etc) but on a surface level, it’s not the best look on your resume.
There's a WHOLE vein of Christianity that hates autism for the same reason it hates Paganism and Judaism: the way American Christianity is set up: it's the endgoal. So anything that makes you doubt or question that is instantly evil. Autism expresses in many diverse and wonderful/strange ways, but one of the main things is wanting to know WHY and HOW things work. And not being content with "because White American Jesus set the stars in-motion."
Same thing with Judiasm and Paganism: both are built on questioning the status quo and authority. It's why authoritative/authoritarian religious movements target them, and autistic people, first and foremost.
This movie is a summary of how men can be mediocre and be seen as high standard.
NGL the book really reads like an autistic man who is in denial he's autistic. He has different fixations from his son, but he still has trouble communicating, fixates on things, recalls random stuff, and does the things he describes his kid doing.
Pretty sure the dad has autism
You got drunk and drove my kids. Done.
The podcast behind the b*stards goes into RFK and they theorize the worms were probably from the time he was "recovering" from his addiction by his friends taking him to the rainforest and putting him in charge of the emergency pain medication (which he immediately used recreationally). He spent a lot of that time eating random meat (for no reason they were good on food) including rat eyeballs. Their source is his biography.
The first time he was talking about the worms was during a court case involving his ex wife. He was attempting to argue he should not have to pay alimony bc he would in theory never make money again bc he couldnt work properly bc of the damage the brain worms had done. Leaves us with a couple of options: he was lying so he wouldnt have to pay his ex wife or he is currently in charge of all of our health in spite of the fact that he himself has argued that he shouldnt be working bc of his brain damage. None of this is gonna bite him in the butt bc his wife unalived herself in the middle of the divorce preceedings.
“oh look another review of this movie— WILLIE MUSE??”
it's valid to be annoyed with your kid no matter what. unless they turn out to be a murderer or equivalent it's not valid to put it into the public like this. if you start your movie/book with complaining about how your kid talks too much and making it come out of their mouth you are bitter.
this reading is helped by him including that his was was married twice. that's bitterness and entitlement.
and of course he's anti-vax. the parent of an autistic kid because "VaCcInEs CaUsE aUtIsM" (they super don't. their favourite not doctor had the chance to do a study to prove if it did and he turned it down) doesn't accept the autism as part of their kid. and that lack of acceptance, that searching for anything to blame, i can only describe as bitter.
Reading that "note from austin" is the first time that a disabled child having deep self-loathing and wishing he didnt exist is the best case scenario.
This crap upsets me. Its parental martyrdom and autistic burden narrative among groups that still want to present as saints while treating autism as a disease.
I grew up with a severely autistic brother. I at way too young became a co-caregiver (8 I was helping make us dinner while either parent got off work. But I also witnessed my brother get a lot of support that my mom just didnt have patience to keep up. Like he has mild ASL knowledge, but my mom wasnt going to learn. Also other habits that endangered both of us, but I had to be a little adult my entire life.
These stories paint the autism as the worst thing. And adults dont worsen things for their children, the stress worsens the adults to underserve their child.
For all her mistakes, my mom considers my brother a gift. If anything shes sometimes shittier to me and that maybe I dont belong in the world because of its intolerance, despite her showing signs of it too.
To me, the moment where Austin is yelling frantically and exuberantly about how good a milkshake is after his broken family is tentatively repaired (and their fights blame him and his medical expenses and disability) reads like a child trying desperately to act like everything is good and fine to hold the broken pieces of their family together. The author of the story is so unperceptive about his autistic son that he blames everything aberrant his son does as “autistic behavior” and patronizingly really believes the milkshake just is that good, and that Austin lives in this perfect little world of simple pleasures. Meanwhile, Austin apparently expresses self hatred for himself and how he was made and the other “non disabled” son is this quiet, perfectly well behaved kid—both of these children fit different behavior profiles of children trying to adapt and survive profoundly dis functional and traumatic homes. The hints we get about the mother’s abusive upbringing and own guilt about her disabilities and the fathers inability to see his sons fully or comprehend their efforts to keep the family together and stable because he and his wife aren’t speaks to his complete disconnect from the reality of his family. Austin isn’t merely a babbling, senseless “autistic” child, who is too imaginative—he is a child using imaginative play to escape from the harsh reality of his every day life and who anxiously and constantly tries to express connection and optimism through speech to overlay the brokenness in his family with an affirmation of his own, while his brother has learned the coping mechanism of staying quiet and perfect and out of sight, because if you are abnormal or “disabled” like Austin then you cause problems with the family. Truly tragic, and this gross and twisted story shows the inadequate mind of its writer which refuses to comprehend the pain of his family because all that matters is his own shallow understanding of his own pain.
46:47 Not to defend the dad, cause the dad sucks ass, but i do think the mom hiding the fact she was married twice WAS a fuck up on her part. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with haven had past relationships or previous marriages, youre allowed to fall in love and sometimes things dont work out. What WAS wrong was that she lied about it for 13 years. Like, surely they must have talked about their past partners in all that time and she chose to never tell him. And these are LEGAL marriages, we dont know who she married, so for all we know, these men could return and try to disrupt the family she has NOW. It DOES affect them. Relationships are built on trust and if your partner lies about something serious, you lose that trust. You show that youre willing to lie about something super important if it could reflect negatively on you. And thats not great, ESPECIALLY if you have kids to worry about
Still, fuck the dad tho
I bet to the dad Jo is god, but wants to try to be for a wider audience, he’s definitely inspired by god 😅
Hi Janet!!!
11:17 its giving "hate the autism, love the autistic person!" 🫠
damn. i saw the trailer for this and i was so certain that the movie was gonna end in the kid dying badly.
sorry the part that took me out was when he came into the kitchen claiming he had a MIGRAINE and the parents both looked at him like hes annoying and not like thats an oddly specific and alarming description of pain for their autistic and brittle bone'd child to be saying??? and then no one helps him with the migraine? and then we put him on the swings, which makes migraines worse????
Please make a part 2! My husband and I agree this dad is wack.
Why would the kid seeing the kite as a dragon be weird??? I'd think a normal parent would just go along with it??? Like "yup, it's a big dragon flying around and we have to slay it!" Or something.
The kid's just using his imagination, I don't understand why that would be "concerning"
That letter breaks my heart, you know he was treated terrible
So, a huge concern about this movie for me. The dad comes across as very autistic in the book. Given autism is genetic, the suspicion rises. Often this leads to worse outcomes for the child cause of a "I had to learn to be normal so they do to" mentality. Pluss in the book, the dad has some serious issues with the way he handles things related to this.
Glad to see willie again before the great cataclysm
I 100% think the dad wrote that letter, but either way it shows Austin was raised in an extremely concerning if not downright abusive environment.
“Logan can ride a dirt bike because he doesn’t have autism.” No honey, Logan can ride dirt bikes because he doesn’t have bone disease, autism has no bearing on that and if your parents have never made that clear to you it’s because they are shitty.
The voice of the kid feels like a stereotype voice
I'm so concerned for the wife. He harrassed her at work and their kid only breaks his bones under the father's supervision
26:30 Im sorry are we all just gonna gloss over the part where this little kid say he loves fight club? The movie which involves a scene where a guy finds a …ahem…toy in airport luggage, another guy splicing in Adult Content into random movies actual boobs are shown, and oh yeah MULTIPLE love scenes happen on screen?!?!? WHO THE HELL LETS THEIR KIDS WATCH THAT STUFF? MIGHT AS WELL SHOW THEM ANTICHRIST AND GAME OF THRONES WHILE YOUR AT IT!