Both sides quote the same Bible. Both sound right. That’s not a you problem — that’s a method problem. The Calvinism vs.
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Jesus said to the Father 'not as I will but as you will'. He was born with a human nature and a human will, and He willed to fulfill the will of the Father, though the weakness of His flesh willed not to suffer scourging and crucifixion. I will take Christ's living testimony of human free will over any theologian's mental gymnastics to the contrary.
Angels delight to look into this mystery of love. Devils tremble at the amazing sight of man's redemption. None but unhumbled sinners turn from it with disgust
I can ask Chat gpt and get the same thing. Without the virtual voice misreading simple word like act as A-C-T or is as I-S. Do better. At least edit. Something this profound is not worth my time in this format.
I really enjoy these videos but you need to get a real person to narrate them. The AI pauses for what seem to be commas in places where there shouldn’t be commas and sometimes says words incoherently. Frequently I can’t understand what word is being said. An actual person narrating the video would increase the quality of the video tremendously and make the videos that much more valuable to those who listen because the arguments would be a lot easier to follow and comprehend and therefore hopefully the concept would become apprehendable to the listener. I am a Reformed Presbyterian and really appreciate these videos. I own a few of Jonathan Edwards’ books but haven’t read them yet. Watching these videos has created a desire within me to read what he wrote even more so now than when I first heard RC Sproul talk about Edwards.
Very good! Of course, that was already there, but what an encouragement in my witnessing. The Armenian approach would have you endlessly practicing your sales routine, imagining that your job of convincing is what drives the heart transformation in the other person. And in our own selves… If freedom, as defined by Paul, is the ability to choose, then only those who've already chosen Christ have freedom.
Tell me you don't really believe this is a logical trap that destroys freewill. It's full of logical fallacies, false premises, etc. Fallacies, Circular Reasoning, Non Sequitur, Reification, No True Scottsman, Moving Goal Posts, Strawman, Equivocation, The Black Box, The Genetic Fallacy, The Homunculus Fallacy, and several category errors
The Infinite Regress Argument is based on a false premise.
Seriously. If this is really Edward's argument your claim that no one has every refuted it is at best incorrect, at worst, well, we'll leave that alone.
Seriously, at least 10 fallacies, several false premises, and several category errors, and you're claiming this is Biblical and what God's word teaches?
Oh Wow, Mercy on those "Taken In" by the first 40 seconds😢 We were Created! Those first paragraphs go on and on with the "regress" thinking as if Our,Father in not the Very Beginning! A Fools Erand to inject your version of a supposedly airtight logic, HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER!! His thoughts and ways are not ours nor can we know them to explain them. If man "was created" with free choice, there would be no (original choice) as alluded to in these Smoky Statements😮
“The unbeatable logic that destroys free will in 10 minutes” So if it doesn’t exist then those that oppose this 10min clip didn’t do so freely. They were predetermined by God’s secret decree to oppose this clip and couldn’t have done otherwise. Which then makes the clip silly and logically useless “as if” it could possibly convince any one of anything since people are not free to choose between any real options.
as a human being I personally experience that when there are two things which I have to choose One, and after considering what should I choose then I take one over the other. That is to me is human free will. I do not believe that God makes me choose the one I took over the other. In the same way it happens if I choose to believe or not which I may be saved or damned. It is my own choice not influenced by somebody powerful but my own considerations.
Blah blah blah blah this video is full of talk and no actions 😅 this is the problem with modern day theologians yall don’t follow Jesus. You create your own worthless shoot up in your heat and you think you know better you’re fooling yourself. Why he’s Johnathan Edward and give your own interpretation?
God will bless whom he will bless and curse whom he will Curse…The Lord giveth and taketh away as he pleases..The spirit of entitlement in humanity and our depraved condition of the Heart and the Worldly philosophy and teaching's cultural influences ect…theories of absolute certain free will under the Sun..This belief system , investment, as the final authority to the Truth….Ends.. in Death looming over humanity and our unspiritual by nature Temporal mindedness The Master Teacher of ridiculous free will theory's is The Grave… Surrender Self it's storage and everything else under the Sun by Faith alone in hope of God's Love and grace threw Christ Jesus and Power and authority to Save us in the resurrection of the dead… Every other option is already exposed to fail..We are dead man and woman walking around here today.. Free Will absent from the Truth and final authority of Death looming.,Be wise test every spirit and everything else under the Sun ❤
Jesus said to the Father 'not as I will but as you will'. He was born with a human nature and a human will, and He willed to fulfill the will of the Father, though the weakness of His flesh willed not to suffer scourging and crucifixion. I will take Christ's living testimony of human free will over any theologian's mental gymnastics to the contrary.
This didn't prove anything to me except Christians have a lot of word salad ideas.
Angels delight to look into this mystery of love. Devils tremble at the amazing sight of man's redemption. None but unhumbled sinners turn from it with disgust
Both sides quote the same Bible. Both sound right. That's not a you problem — that's a method problem.
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I can ask Chat gpt and get the same thing. Without the virtual voice misreading simple word like act as A-C-T or is as I-S. Do better. At least edit. Something this profound is not worth my time in this format.
I really enjoy these videos but you need to get a real person to narrate them. The AI pauses for what seem to be commas in places where there shouldn’t be commas and sometimes says words incoherently. Frequently I can’t understand what word is being said. An actual person narrating the video would increase the quality of the video tremendously and make the videos that much more valuable to those who listen because the arguments would be a lot easier to follow and comprehend and therefore hopefully the concept would become apprehendable to the listener.
I am a Reformed Presbyterian and really appreciate these videos. I own a few of Jonathan Edwards’ books but haven’t read them yet. Watching these videos has created a desire within me to read what he wrote even more so now than when I first heard RC Sproul talk about Edwards.
Took too long to get to the point.
Very good! Of course, that was already there, but what an encouragement in my witnessing. The Armenian approach would have you endlessly practicing your sales routine, imagining that your job of convincing is what drives the heart transformation in the other person. And in our own selves… If freedom, as defined by Paul, is the ability to choose, then only those who've already chosen Christ have freedom.
Tell me you don't really believe this is a logical trap that destroys freewill. It's full of logical fallacies, false premises, etc. Fallacies, Circular Reasoning, Non Sequitur, Reification, No True Scottsman, Moving Goal Posts, Strawman, Equivocation, The Black Box,
The Genetic Fallacy, The Homunculus Fallacy, and several category errors
The Infinite Regress Argument is based on a false premise.
Seriously. If this is really Edward's argument your claim that no one has every refuted it is at best incorrect, at worst, well, we'll leave that alone.
Seriously, at least 10 fallacies, several false premises, and several category errors, and you're claiming this is Biblical and what God's word teaches?
We've got to do better.
How adamantly do some defend their autonomy. Is God your God or is it your self determination?
The video says free will is impossible to exist. What it means is that free will's existence is impossible to understand.
Oh Wow, Mercy on those "Taken In" by the first 40 seconds😢
We were Created! Those first paragraphs go on and on with the "regress" thinking as if Our,Father in not the Very Beginning!
A Fools Erand to inject your version of a supposedly airtight logic, HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER!! His thoughts and ways are not ours nor can we know them to explain them. If man "was created" with free choice, there would be no (original choice) as alluded to in these Smoky Statements😮
Zooming in and out constantly is so distracting I couldn't watch it.
Utterly unconvincing!
I think Calvinists' problem is they don't see people as made in the very image of God.
This is a false dichotomy – there are more than two choices. Fail
Calvinists see people made in the image of God. But that everyone is born spiritually dead.
“The unbeatable logic that destroys free will in 10 minutes”
So if it doesn’t exist then those that oppose this 10min clip didn’t do so freely. They were predetermined by God’s secret decree to oppose this clip and couldn’t have done otherwise. Which then makes the clip silly and logically useless “as if” it could possibly convince any one of anything since people are not free to choose between any real options.
as a human being I personally experience that when there are two things which I have to choose One, and after considering what should I choose then I take one over the other. That is to me is human free will. I do not believe that God makes me choose the one I took over the other. In the same way it happens if I choose to believe or not which I may be saved or damned. It is my own choice not influenced by somebody powerful but my own considerations.
Way to ruin looking up JE and diluting spirit with slop. Can’t even scroll and find a quality sermon with all your videos.
Blah blah blah blah this video is full of talk and no actions 😅 this is the problem with modern day theologians yall don’t follow Jesus. You create your own worthless shoot up in your heat and you think you know better you’re fooling yourself. Why he’s Johnathan Edward and give your own interpretation?
Arminian theology find its root in humanistic philosophy. It certainly does not come from a biblical foundation.
God will bless whom he will bless and curse whom he will Curse…The Lord giveth and taketh away as he pleases..The spirit of entitlement in humanity and our depraved condition of the Heart and the Worldly philosophy and teaching's cultural influences ect…theories of absolute certain free will under the Sun..This belief system , investment, as the final authority to the Truth….Ends.. in Death looming over humanity and our unspiritual by nature Temporal mindedness The Master Teacher of ridiculous free will theory's is The Grave… Surrender Self it's storage and everything else under the Sun by Faith alone in hope of God's Love and grace threw Christ Jesus and Power and authority to Save us in the resurrection of the dead… Every other option is already exposed to fail..We are dead man and woman walking around here today.. Free Will absent from the Truth and final authority of Death looming.,Be wise test every spirit and everything else under the Sun ❤