As a Christian, I have been wronged and abused by other Christians. And yes, there were times I did question about my beliefs. However, I do believe that Christianity is not suppose to be about the people of church, it is about what Christ has done. Mankind, even the most devout Christians is going to disappoint you. Psalms 118:8 (KJV) It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
And yes, a lot of the Christian movies are really low effort and the music are super repetitive. It feels like a chore to experience them. I know they can do more than that, but I don't know why they hold back. And I love creativity.
I used to be a hardcore Christian but nowadays I can't really bring myself to go to Church. It isn't just the pandemic, but that certainly helped. I want to believe, but so many aspects, at least of the Churches I used to go to, seemed like a cult more than I feel comfortable with. Family members treated the Church as number one, which is fine I suppose, but they did it at the expense of their family. Simply neglecting all of us to go to every single service every single day. Lying about their pasts and their children to seem more virtuous in the eyes of the Church, and things of the like. Besides all that, I simply don't like the idea of a reward system for life. I want good things to matter because they help someone else, not because they save me from eternal suffering after I die. I don't know, it just makes so many things seem disingenuous when everything a hardcore Christian does that's good is so they'll be allowed into heaven. All of this said I don't have a problem with anyone who's a hardcore Christian, or even just a passive church-goer. I've just had my faith eroded over the years. Maybe someday I'll get it back.
I grew up hard core conservative Christian. I grew up on dc Talk, Newsboys, Audio Adrenaline, Supertones, etc. Christian music peaked in the 90s. After the 90s, Chrisitian music stalled out and everyone copied the worship music style, which isn't terrible, but everything sounded like everything else.
I was very critical of Christian media, and I used the exact same line "followers of God should be the most creative!"
If I had to choose a favorite Christian movie, I guess I'd go with The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe. It's just a fantastic story.
Over the past decade (my 30s, fyi, I'm turning 40 next month), I've stayed a part of the mainstream evangelical church, but have become pretty disillusioned with it. I hold onto the love of Jesus, and try and ignore the conservative politics some seem to make part of their faith. My faith has actually turned my political views pretty liberal, as I've turned my focus on helping others, rather than hunkering down and "protecting" myself.
Thank you for sharing so much of your faith. I am new to your channel and share a very similar background with my faith in Christianity. There were points in my life I questioned my faith but I am now very happy to say my faith in god has never been stronger. The Church and the men who run them on the other hand are another story. Much like you I love movies, games and comics. I’ve been a nerd my whole life. I’ve also never felt the need to judge a person by their beliefs, sexuality or the color of their skin which seems to bother some people of faith now a days. I just wanted to say thank you. You’re page really seems like a fun community of good hearted people with open minds who share the love of this type of culture.
Right! The less I know! Two years ago I was reading Ezekiel and God says he is the one who inspired sacrifices to Moloch so that his people would then become horrified at themselves and turn back to him. I stopped reading my Bible, except for the Psalms, for a year. It took me that long to process those frightening verses.
More Christian-themed movies well worth the watch for excellence in film making:
Shadowlands Risen The Hiding Place The Cross & the Switchblade The Rite The Wicker Man (original) Teeth (strong language, nudity, and harsh theme–but well worth the view for satire of everything y'all are saying about American Christians)
The way to win an argument isn’t to argue, it’s to appeal, and most people don’t realize this. You can’t say, “if you don’t follow jesus you’ll go to hell!” nobody will listen to you. If you appeal to them in a kind, friendly, and christlike way you will find much better results.
The LGBT community touts that if you have a problem with homosexuality, you must be secretly homosexual. You often hear that people hate things that remind them of "negative" parts of themselves. That's why Christians feel that atheists secretly believe in God. It's the same philosophy the LGBT community champions but no one questions them.
Little-known film "Hidden in Silence" starring Kelly Martin tells the true story of a young Catholic girl who hides Jews in her house during the holocaust. It's similar to Anne Frank except the Catholic girl pulls a mini-Schindler's list. Info on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Silence-Tom-Radcliffe/dp/B003JLL2RW
I found your channel because of your Star Wars content but looking through you videos found this one and I have to say it's one of the most relatable views on Christianity and the church that I've come across. I appreciate your content and views, it definitely is a bold and brave thing to take a stand like this and I respect that quite a bit.
Hacksaw Ridge is one of my favorite movies of all time. Also, really great to see that others think like me. I am a Christian, but really disagree with the way Christians as a whole have presented themselves in America.
Even though I genuinely like this video and am incredibly impressed by both of you (and have been for awhile) this was the thing that solifinally got me to understand one of my main problem with Christianity,
It’s a religion for oppressed people that has an entire legacy of oppressor wealth and imperialism behind it. The first slave ship was named ‘Jesus’ and while I think we can all agree that that atrocity is about as anti Christian as it gets a whole group of people cut of from their gods only had The Bible::.and no alternatives and a direct parallel in Moses for their situation.
Holden’s comment ‘I find Christian themes in everything and maybe that’s because God is universal’ was the only thing he has ever said that’s actually kinda annoyed me.and I love Holden. We’re trained to find Christian images even if we don’t believe because we live in America and carry America (and Britain…and Rome’s legacy).
That said this made me think. I definitely need to see Silence. And I’m interested to see what ya’ll would think about ‘Saved!’(which is a very Christian movie that Christians hate) or HBO’s version of His Dark Materials (which was supposed to be an atheist retelling of the books but I have my doubts.)
I am a born again Christian myself. And I agree that Christian media is very problematic. I do not like a lot of Christian films. Secular filmmakers have made better Christian films. Look at Prince of Egypt. Made by a secular studio but was very powerful. I'm a film buff. Some Christians will question my film choices but I treat film as an art form. Yes, I do have limits with certain content. But overall, I love movies.
You should watch Gods not Dead 3. The only movie that is not a propaganda. It even questioned the morality of the first 2 movies. Heck its the most good reviewed(in non Christian community.) Sad that in the franchise it had the less box office hit but its one of good character driven, less preachy and decent Christian movie.
These movies are about self-recognition when your christian faith is shallow and you have to reassure who you are, and that's so lame. I rather watch "The Book of Eli" or something like this than this propaganda thing. And I even can't stand "90 Minutes in Heaven". Why is he so pissed to have a second chance and do things right? He seems like Job, someone righteous and God-fearing, but still needed to have his humanity worked out. The problem is also not how "conservative christians" are "politically correct" or religious, because we can find morons everywhere. Like, I'm chirstian and also conservative, but I'm not that legalist guy, but I also am against what is propagated in the mainstream and liberal agendas as well. for me, reality and fellowship with the Lord counts better than how much do you spend on church on weekend. But the most important thing is to strengthen our faith, read more the Bible and have a true fellowship and relationship with the Lord.
While aimed more to Catholicism this movie actually makes perfect arguments for faith over doctrine and that’s Dogma. Yes bad language, yes rubber poop monster but it’s meaning and it’s core can be used for the majority of faith groups. And it really helps with relating to both God & Jesus.
Also the Preacher Wife, it’s one of my Christmas movies
0:58 I just stumbled upon your (older) videos about Christianity and art, and I have to say I really appreciate them. I feel being “in the middle” though. I’m definitely a Christian, but have my criticisms of the church (Christians at large) and I wouldn’t consider myself conservative, but I’m too religious to be “woke” or liberal. It’s good to know that other Christians involved in art who feel the same way yet are unashamed of and are able to defend their beliefs are out there
If you “don’t know” whether you are a christian, as Footless Joe professes, then you aren’t a Christian. So interesting that these would be Christian’s recognize that they were “programmed” (aka brainwashed) from an early age but still fail to question the core belief system.
I completely neglected my ALL TIME favorite animated movie…The Prince of Egypt. Such an amazing film with the greatest soundtrack I've ever heard.
As a Christian, I have been wronged and abused by other Christians. And yes, there were times I did question about my beliefs. However, I do believe that Christianity is not suppose to be about the people of church, it is about what Christ has done. Mankind, even the most devout Christians is going to disappoint you.
Psalms 118:8 (KJV) It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
And yes, a lot of the Christian movies are really low effort and the music are super repetitive. It feels like a chore to experience them. I know they can do more than that, but I don't know why they hold back. And I love creativity.
Well what about Bruce almighty and Evan almighty
Courageous…..Overcomer….Fireproof. All by Alex Kendrick. Great christian movies
I used to be a hardcore Christian but nowadays I can't really bring myself to go to Church. It isn't just the pandemic, but that certainly helped. I want to believe, but so many aspects, at least of the Churches I used to go to, seemed like a cult more than I feel comfortable with. Family members treated the Church as number one, which is fine I suppose, but they did it at the expense of their family. Simply neglecting all of us to go to every single service every single day. Lying about their pasts and their children to seem more virtuous in the eyes of the Church, and things of the like. Besides all that, I simply don't like the idea of a reward system for life. I want good things to matter because they help someone else, not because they save me from eternal suffering after I die. I don't know, it just makes so many things seem disingenuous when everything a hardcore Christian does that's good is so they'll be allowed into heaven. All of this said I don't have a problem with anyone who's a hardcore Christian, or even just a passive church-goer. I've just had my faith eroded over the years. Maybe someday I'll get it back.
I grew up hard core conservative Christian. I grew up on dc Talk, Newsboys, Audio Adrenaline, Supertones, etc. Christian music peaked in the 90s. After the 90s, Chrisitian music stalled out and everyone copied the worship music style, which isn't terrible, but everything sounded like everything else.
I was very critical of Christian media, and I used the exact same line "followers of God should be the most creative!"
If I had to choose a favorite Christian movie, I guess I'd go with The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe. It's just a fantastic story.
Over the past decade (my 30s, fyi, I'm turning 40 next month), I've stayed a part of the mainstream evangelical church, but have become pretty disillusioned with it. I hold onto the love of Jesus, and try and ignore the conservative politics some seem to make part of their faith. My faith has actually turned my political views pretty liberal, as I've turned my focus on helping others, rather than hunkering down and "protecting" myself.
Ya'll need to give God Awful Movies a listen.
The Chosen TV series is great
My biggest struggle is how most Christians think that if you not drinking the koolaid you have lost the faith… that is so far from the truth…
The problem with Christianity isn't Christianity, it's Christians.
Also something I can't stand about most Christian films: they are ensembles. They don't have a main character and have like a billion subplots.
Thank you for sharing so much of your faith. I am new to your channel and share a very similar background with my faith in Christianity. There were points in my life I questioned my faith but I am now very happy to say my faith in god has never been stronger. The Church and the men who run them on the other hand are another story. Much like you I love movies, games and comics. I’ve been a nerd my whole life. I’ve also never felt the need to judge a person by their beliefs, sexuality or the color of their skin which seems to bother some people of faith now a days. I just wanted to say thank you. You’re page really seems like a fun community of good hearted people with open minds who share the love of this type of culture.
Christian themed films:
Dark House
The Witch
I Will Follow You Into the Dark
The Presence
The Exorcism of Emily Rose
First Reformed
Faith in Destiny
The Frame
Ink
Right! The less I know! Two years ago I was reading Ezekiel and God says he is the one who inspired sacrifices to Moloch so that his people would then become horrified at themselves and turn back to him. I stopped reading my Bible, except for the Psalms, for a year. It took me that long to process those frightening verses.
More Christian-themed movies well worth the watch for excellence in film making:
Shadowlands
Risen
The Hiding Place
The Cross & the Switchblade
The Rite
The Wicker Man (original)
Teeth (strong language, nudity, and harsh theme–but well worth the view for satire of everything y'all are saying about American Christians)
The way to win an argument isn’t to argue, it’s to appeal, and most people don’t realize this. You can’t say, “if you don’t follow jesus you’ll go to hell!” nobody will listen to you. If you appeal to them in a kind, friendly, and christlike way you will find much better results.
The LGBT community touts that if you have a problem with homosexuality, you must be secretly homosexual. You often hear that people hate things that remind them of "negative" parts of themselves. That's why Christians feel that atheists secretly believe in God. It's the same philosophy the LGBT community champions but no one questions them.
Little-known film "Hidden in Silence" starring Kelly Martin tells the true story of a young Catholic girl who hides Jews in her house during the holocaust. It's similar to Anne Frank except the Catholic girl pulls a mini-Schindler's list. Info on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Silence-Tom-Radcliffe/dp/B003JLL2RW
I found your channel because of your Star Wars content but looking through you videos found this one and I have to say it's one of the most relatable views on Christianity and the church that I've come across. I appreciate your content and views, it definitely is a bold and brave thing to take a stand like this and I respect that quite a bit.
I would ad The Two popes, Noah and may be Freeheld?
Hacksaw Ridge is one of my favorite movies of all time. Also, really great to see that others think like me. I am a Christian, but really disagree with the way Christians as a whole have presented themselves in America.
Even though I genuinely like this video and am incredibly impressed by both of you (and have been for awhile) this was the thing that solifinally got me to understand one of my main problem with Christianity,
It’s a religion for oppressed people that has an entire legacy of oppressor wealth and imperialism behind it. The first slave ship was named ‘Jesus’ and while I think we can all agree that that atrocity is about as anti Christian as it gets a whole group of people cut of from their gods only had The Bible::.and no alternatives and a direct parallel in Moses for their situation.
Holden’s comment ‘I find Christian themes in everything and maybe that’s because God is universal’ was the only thing he has ever said that’s actually kinda annoyed me.and I love Holden. We’re trained to find Christian images even if we don’t believe because we live in America and carry America (and Britain…and Rome’s legacy).
That said this made me think. I definitely need to see Silence. And I’m interested to see what ya’ll would think about ‘Saved!’(which is a very Christian movie that Christians hate) or HBO’s version of His Dark Materials (which was supposed to be an atheist retelling of the books but I have my doubts.)
I am a born again Christian myself. And I agree that Christian media is very problematic. I do not like a lot of Christian films. Secular filmmakers have made better Christian films. Look at Prince of Egypt. Made by a secular studio but was very powerful. I'm a film buff. Some Christians will question my film choices but I treat film as an art form. Yes, I do have limits with certain content. But overall, I love movies.
What about Greater? That’s a pretty good movie
You should watch Gods not Dead 3. The only movie that is not a propaganda. It even questioned the morality of the first 2 movies. Heck its the most good reviewed(in non Christian community.) Sad that in the franchise it had the less box office hit but its one of good character driven, less preachy and decent Christian movie.
Are you planning on reviewing "The Chosen"?
These movies are about self-recognition when your christian faith is shallow and you have to reassure who you are, and that's so lame. I rather watch "The Book of Eli" or something like this than this propaganda thing. And I even can't stand "90 Minutes in Heaven". Why is he so pissed to have a second chance and do things right? He seems like Job, someone righteous and God-fearing, but still needed to have his humanity worked out. The problem is also not how "conservative christians" are "politically correct" or religious, because we can find morons everywhere. Like, I'm chirstian and also conservative, but I'm not that legalist guy, but I also am against what is propagated in the mainstream and liberal agendas as well. for me, reality and fellowship with the Lord counts better than how much do you spend on church on weekend. But the most important thing is to strengthen our faith, read more the Bible and have a true fellowship and relationship with the Lord.
As a Roman Catholic I agree wholeheartedly with everything you guys discussed in this video!
While aimed more to Catholicism this movie actually makes perfect arguments for faith over doctrine and that’s Dogma. Yes bad language, yes rubber poop monster but it’s meaning and it’s core can be used for the majority of faith groups. And it really helps with relating to both God & Jesus.
Also the Preacher Wife, it’s one of my Christmas movies
I agree with everything on the list
I know this is a list of movies, buuut
The Chosen, is a great crowdfunded show with currently 2 seasons
No Book of Eli? That's a Christian movie, if a little violent. But, very cool.
a walk to remember was good
you guys keep mentioning "the church" without saying which church you are part of. which church is that?
How about "The Chosen"?
You should do one of these for Man of Steel. I've yet to see another superhero movie that has that many Christ parallels.
0:58 I just stumbled upon your (older) videos about Christianity and art, and I have to say I really appreciate them. I feel being “in the middle” though. I’m definitely a Christian, but have my criticisms of the church (Christians at large) and I wouldn’t consider myself conservative, but I’m too religious to be “woke” or liberal. It’s good to know that other Christians involved in art who feel the same way yet are unashamed of and are able to defend their beliefs are out there
Christian movies tend to have that sad problem of not being very good.
If you “don’t know” whether you are a christian, as Footless Joe professes, then you aren’t a Christian. So interesting that these would be Christian’s recognize that they were “programmed” (aka brainwashed) from an early age but still fail to question the core belief system.