Christians the devil is a liar, God is real is power is real and its for everyone that BELIEVES thats why devil will use any dirty trick to make you believe that you are powerless, think about it. Jesus is the role model and Jesus didn't lack a thing and Jesus is inside of us, DONT BELIEVE NOR FOLLOW A LYING spirits.
This is kind of a stupid video which fabricated false evidences just to decieve many Christians not to believe the true power of God.
I have learned about John G Lake and also his teaching concerning healing. He completely understand on what the Gospels taught particularly on Paul Espistles which many modern Christians don't understand. No wonder our modern Christianity now is so backward that many Christians wh professed themselves as believers are actually not believers and fake Christians that cannot produce power which Jesus ha spoken in John 14:12. I have learned his materials and compare side by side with the bible and have seen thousands of healings after these 32 years in ministry.
Whoever you are who made this video, is a total foolish man that has no knowledge and experience concerning the Word of God and the person and power of the Holy Spirit.
Andrew Wommack is a false teacher. It doesn’t matter how sincere he is, it matters what Scripture says. He promises health and wealth to believers if they just have enough faith.
John Mark, I’m a devoted Baptist, but I listen to your podcasts because of your humble heart and willingness to be honest. You are my favourite Charismatic! God bless you and your ministry!
you misunderstand those quotes you're reading massively. you're reading into them you're own suspicions, but you have to remember he is speaking from his own words IN his own time. He's not wrong. he understands the Anointing and how it works. It's not something we understand widely in the modern church. we don't even think of what Christ or Christian means! Jesus was anointed of God. John G Lake is not talking about using gods power for his own gains. Your mindset is the reason why the modern church has no power. It has a form of God but denies the power therein. Of course there are massive abuses of this anointing, but this anointing is Gods manifest power and the 'spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet'. We should be more cautious about re-writing history. and we should be more reverent in understanding who the Lord is how he works.
If you tend toward cessationist thinking, anything that looks like a modern miracle will immediately be labeled as either fraudulent or demonic – and that itself is dangerous. Some of the complaints they make about reducing the person of the Holy Spirit to a substance are literally used by the authors of scripture themselves. Jesus had the Spirit “without measure” according to John the Baptist. Many believers are reported as being “full of” the Holy Ghost and power. We ourselves are exhorted to “be filled” with the Spirit (Ephesians 5:18). No one in their right mind would say that these verses lessen the person of the Holy Spirit – but people who use the same language today somehow are? Obviously it is a mystery how every believer both has the spirit of Christ and yet are also exhorted to “be filled” on a continual basis. You don’t have to understand it – but just acknowledge it is a scriptural reality. We can’t let our human models or understanding of God interfere with what the Bible plainly says, whether we understand how it works or not. As for John G Lake – who knows! I haven’t personally read into the accusations of fraudulent behavior, but his statements on the working of the Spirit seem largely speculative. It’s something that he himself wondered about
Please be careful to inform people if you have no exhaustive research on people used by God mightily just for the sake of reporting. We as a family here in Switzerland were at a conference in 2020with Curry Blake. We cannot ignore God's move in those meetings! You can't put all in one basket of deception! We're also very vigilant against deceivers like Kathryn Krick. So please check well.Thanks
As much as we have needed exposure of some in the Charismatic church we also need encouragement. The gifts and supernatural are still valid despite the abuse. Please show some good ministries. You were really off with the Kim Clement video.
Until yall that run this channel start healing and casting out demons raising the dead just stop. You have no idea what you are doing trying to destroy history when God doesn’t even move thru you
I am deeply encouraged by this video. Thank you for your honesty, and your courage to speak the truth. I used to be in a Bethel type church and was very involved with SOZO ministry, but the Lord graciously opened my eyes in 2018, and gave me the beautiful gift of repentance. Coming out of false teaching and false beliefs is HARD, painful, humbling, scary, overwhelming…its a lot! But the FREEDOM of actual truth, of coming out of striving and spiritual performance was life changing. Its been sad and frustrating sharing this with Charismatic friends who just dont want to hear about it. Some people just refuse to hear or see the truth about men like John Lake. They seem to prefer to stay in the deception rather than see the truth and change their minds (repent). But, God is patient, and kind, and He is revealing truth to His children. In the form of videos just like this one. Guys, if you have watched this video – you are blessed. God is giving you a chance. Turn away from false teaching and false teachers. Read the New Testament and see how many times God warns us about this. He warns us because He LOVES US. We must obey Him…thats if we love Him.
The hit pieces were created by the news media of the day. They were out for blood. Do you believe the mainstream news? Lake wasn't perfect and he definitely used terminology that we wouldn't use today. Read his work in context and pray 🙏 for clarity.
Lake's been dead damned near A HUNDRED YEARS! Same with Dowie, McPhereson. Coe, Kuhlman, Branham and Allen been dead at least SIXTY-YEARS. It's all literally "HE SAID-SHE SAID" at this point and NOBODY LIVING has a clue to the facts.
The problem with the church today, especially false prophets. and false profit hunters. Don't talk about the Holy Spirit. He is the one that leads us and guides us into all truth. Man is fallible. You me all of us have that sin nature, that's why we're supposed to let the Holy Spirit lead us and guide us into all truth. Unfortunately , he started this broadcast out without telling people about the holy spirit , which means you're really not caring about anybody that you're talking to
If you lived in the times of the Lord Jesus, you will still have done this same thing. This video is so pathetic. You are so lazy to fill your mind with God's word for faith but excited to destroy another person's testimony and walk with God.
Please continue to do what you’re doing. It’s necessary to expose the darkness because many are being deceived. Not everyone is watching multiple channels, so having this issue being covered by multiple channels ensures the truth gets out.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
This is where witchcraft has adapted spiritually “acceptable” language within the church. Because that’s what this is and what many have perpetuated, witchcraft. Manipulation to produce OUR will by raising OUR agendas above the knowledge of God. It must be torn down and we must repent.
Wow. This is so serious, and very affirming. God is really perfecting in His church in these last days, and I think it starts with repentance and exposure of things that have remained hidden, and cancerous in the body of Christ. Thank you!
Also, this conversation points me back to Philippians 2:3: Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. But rather in humility, consider others to be better/more significant than yourself.
"Maybe instead of seeking revival, chasing generals…we should make the 'bar' God's calling on our lives."
Humility, repentance. These are gifts of God to the church! And if we hold onto things God seeks to free us from, we cannot expect a true outpouring of the Holy Spirit on a proud, unteachable church. If we live under partial teaching, we will see partial results; but I think we've grown content with the partial and irreverent to what God really offers and promises to those who choose full obedience and surrender. Jesus isn't coming back for partiality in His bride.
⚠️2 Timothy 3:12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus (as JG Lake) will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors, (like this channel) will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. ♥️//
I have worked as an RN for more than 30 years in a few different specialties. I have been grieved often to hear non-clinical language allegedly used by "doctors" about Charismatic healings which may or may not have happened. I only recently bothered to read Lake's own words about the "healings" he claims to have seen and even in my small reading can see the same "miracle inflation" at work as I have seen in modern circles. In "the collected works" attributed to john lake he describes physicians using a technology to watch cells inside a body in real time that we do not even have today except in a PET scan, and that is still in normal time scales rather than instantaneous.
And how much experience do you Minor Prophets have in healing ministry? Let me guess: not much! The electricity experience is real, I have felt it myself when I prayed for someone. It has only happened once, but I tell you, it was quite like touching a power socket or something. The person I prayed for reported that the pain left. + the way you paraphrase the Lake quotes is obviously biased. He didn't say anything about manipulating Holy Spirit. YOU did.
1st Corinthians 6:1 through 8
Christians the devil is a liar, God is real is power is real and its for everyone that BELIEVES thats why devil will use any dirty trick to make you believe that you are powerless, think about it. Jesus is the role model and Jesus didn't lack a thing and Jesus is inside of us, DONT BELIEVE NOR FOLLOW A LYING spirits.
This is kind of a stupid video which fabricated false evidences just to decieve many Christians not to believe the true power of God.
I have learned about John G Lake and also his teaching concerning healing. He completely understand on what the Gospels taught particularly on Paul Espistles which many modern Christians don't understand. No wonder our modern Christianity now is so backward that many Christians wh professed themselves as believers are actually not believers and fake Christians that cannot produce power which Jesus ha spoken in John 14:12. I have learned his materials and compare side by side with the bible and have seen thousands of healings after these 32 years in ministry.
Whoever you are who made this video, is a total foolish man that has no knowledge and experience concerning the Word of God and the person and power of the Holy Spirit.
Andrew Wommack is a false teacher. It doesn’t matter how sincere he is, it matters what Scripture says. He promises health and wealth to believers if they just have enough faith.
We need some videos about miracles that are true and verified please
John Mark, I’m a devoted Baptist, but I listen to your podcasts because of your humble heart and willingness to be honest. You are my favourite Charismatic! God bless you and your ministry!
Its all so tiresome.
you misunderstand those quotes you're reading massively. you're reading into them you're own suspicions, but you have to remember he is speaking from his own words IN his own time. He's not wrong. he understands the Anointing and how it works. It's not something we understand widely in the modern church. we don't even think of what Christ or Christian means! Jesus was anointed of God. John G Lake is not talking about using gods power for his own gains. Your mindset is the reason why the modern church has no power. It has a form of God but denies the power therein. Of course there are massive abuses of this anointing, but this anointing is Gods manifest power and the 'spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet'. We should be more cautious about re-writing history. and we should be more reverent in understanding who the Lord is how he works.
Appreciate you identifying more shrapnel that needs to be removed.
Curry Blake is a fraud too….Any of these healing ministries are frauds.
There's a big problem with unbelief in the church for sure…. There's also a big problem with cessationism
Another YT guy posted the same video recently
Your reaching buddy to mch
He wasn’t a fraud just a drunk
If you tend toward cessationist thinking, anything that looks like a modern miracle will immediately be labeled as either fraudulent or demonic – and that itself is dangerous. Some of the complaints they make about reducing the person of the Holy Spirit to a substance are literally used by the authors of scripture themselves. Jesus had the Spirit “without measure” according to John the Baptist. Many believers are reported as being “full of” the Holy Ghost and power. We ourselves are exhorted to “be filled” with the Spirit (Ephesians 5:18). No one in their right mind would say that these verses lessen the person of the Holy Spirit – but people who use the same language today somehow are? Obviously it is a mystery how every believer both has the spirit of Christ and yet are also exhorted to “be filled” on a continual basis. You don’t have to understand it – but just acknowledge it is a scriptural reality. We can’t let our human models or understanding of God interfere with what the Bible plainly says, whether we understand how it works or not. As for John G Lake – who knows! I haven’t personally read into the accusations of fraudulent behavior, but his statements on the working of the Spirit seem largely speculative. It’s something that he himself wondered about
You are walking on dangerous path. Beware.
Please be careful to inform people if you have no exhaustive research on people used by God mightily just for the sake of reporting. We as a family here in Switzerland were at a conference in 2020with Curry Blake. We cannot ignore God's move in those meetings!
You can't put all in one basket of deception! We're also very vigilant against deceivers like Kathryn Krick. So please check well.Thanks
As much as we have needed exposure of some in the Charismatic church we also need encouragement. The gifts and supernatural are still valid despite the abuse.
Please show some good ministries. You were really off with the Kim Clement video.
John Collins “Leaving the Message” holds massive historical data on John g lake and others …. Check him out !!
Until yall that run this channel start healing and casting out demons raising the dead just stop. You have no idea what you are doing trying to destroy history when God doesn’t even move thru you
LORD, thank You for JohnMark 😃🙏❤️🩹
There are still some great humble men of God who are serving the body of Christ, beautifully.
I am deeply encouraged by this video. Thank you for your honesty, and your courage to speak the truth. I used to be in a Bethel type church and was very involved with SOZO ministry, but the Lord graciously opened my eyes in 2018, and gave me the beautiful gift of repentance. Coming out of false teaching and false beliefs is HARD, painful, humbling, scary, overwhelming…its a lot! But the FREEDOM of actual truth, of coming out of striving and spiritual performance was life changing. Its been sad and frustrating sharing this with Charismatic friends who just dont want to hear about it. Some people just refuse to hear or see the truth about men like John Lake. They seem to prefer to stay in the deception rather than see the truth and change their minds (repent). But, God is patient, and kind, and He is revealing truth to His children. In the form of videos just like this one. Guys, if you have watched this video – you are blessed. God is giving you a chance. Turn away from false teaching and false teachers. Read the New Testament and see how many times God warns us about this. He warns us because He LOVES US. We must obey Him…thats if we love Him.
The hit pieces were created by the news media of the day. They were out for blood. Do you believe the mainstream news?
Lake wasn't perfect and he definitely used terminology that we wouldn't use today.
Read his work in context and pray 🙏 for clarity.
Your summary at the end, this is exactly where God has been leading me too, and you know….it isn't where I WANTED to go. But I think you are spot on.
Yeah…so thanks for basically wasting my time rehashing what the other guys said in his video pretty much verbatim.
Lake's been dead damned near A HUNDRED YEARS! Same with Dowie, McPhereson. Coe, Kuhlman, Branham and Allen been dead at least SIXTY-YEARS. It's all literally "HE SAID-SHE SAID" at this point and NOBODY LIVING has a clue to the facts.
The problem with the church today, especially false prophets. and false profit hunters. Don't talk about the Holy Spirit. He is the one that leads us and guides us into all truth. Man is fallible. You me all of us have that sin nature, that's why we're supposed to let the Holy Spirit lead us and guide us into all truth. Unfortunately , he started this broadcast out without telling people about the holy spirit , which means you're really not caring about anybody that you're talking to
You guys are not waking up. You are getting blinded
If you lived in the times of the Lord Jesus, you will still have done this same thing. This video is so pathetic. You are so lazy to fill your mind with God's word for faith but excited to destroy another person's testimony and walk with God.
Who have you healed? Who have you helped?
Your analysis of his teachings are so malicious and twisted. Sick.
Please continue to do what you’re doing. It’s necessary to expose the darkness because many are being deceived. Not everyone is watching multiple channels, so having this issue being covered by multiple channels ensures the truth gets out.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
One day you will speak against Jesus if you continue this kind of content. You will kick against the bricks like Jesus said to Saul.
This is where witchcraft has adapted spiritually “acceptable” language within the church. Because that’s what this is and what many have perpetuated, witchcraft. Manipulation to produce OUR will by raising OUR agendas above the knowledge of God. It must be torn down and we must repent.
Wow. This is so serious, and very affirming. God is really perfecting in His church in these last days, and I think it starts with repentance and exposure of things that have remained hidden, and cancerous in the body of Christ. Thank you!
Also, this conversation points me back to Philippians 2:3: Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. But rather in humility, consider others to be better/more significant than yourself.
"Maybe instead of seeking revival, chasing generals…we should make the 'bar' God's calling on our lives."
Humility, repentance. These are gifts of God to the church! And if we hold onto things God seeks to free us from, we cannot expect a true outpouring of the Holy Spirit on a proud, unteachable church. If we live under partial teaching, we will see partial results; but I think we've grown content with the partial and irreverent to what God really offers and promises to those who choose full obedience and surrender. Jesus isn't coming back for partiality in His bride.
Holy Spirit, we repent.
PLEASE do a video on the false prophet MLMs!
Thank you for sharing this. I didn’t know this.
⚠️2 Timothy 3:12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus (as JG Lake) will be persecuted,
13 while evildoers and impostors, (like this channel) will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
♥️//
I have worked as an RN for more than 30 years in a few different specialties. I have been grieved often to hear non-clinical language allegedly used by "doctors" about Charismatic healings which may or may not have happened. I only recently bothered to read Lake's own words about the "healings" he claims to have seen and even in my small reading can see the same "miracle inflation" at work as I have seen in modern circles. In "the collected works" attributed to john lake he describes physicians using a technology to watch cells inside a body in real time that we do not even have today except in a PET scan, and that is still in normal time scales rather than instantaneous.
And how much experience do you Minor Prophets have in healing ministry? Let me guess: not much! The electricity experience is real, I have felt it myself when I prayed for someone. It has only happened once, but I tell you, it was quite like touching a power socket or something. The person I prayed for reported that the pain left.
+ the way you paraphrase the Lake quotes is obviously biased. He didn't say anything about manipulating Holy Spirit. YOU did.