It's heritage not hatred I'm a Cherokee Indian and my family fought for the Confederate army do not disrespect history it's heritage not hatred get it right flag is just an object and it's not even the real Confederate Battle flag it was made after the war was over to honor the innocent women and children that were lost in that war from the Confederate families it should be treated with respect not disrespect or dishonor now if you want to talk about racism look at Nazis skinhead games those are racist people they should not be using that Confederate flag is a symbol of hatrednow you want to see a true symbolism of hatred look at that American flag that represents removal murder lies and slavery of native Americansnative Americans that have lived here for thousands of years before you put them on reservations like prisoners of war fantasy government boarding schools where you murdered our innocent children you want to talk about racism look at the USA flag does red stripes represent innocent blood shed spilled by native Americans so forget you your American flag is racist
you really want to talk about racism look at that American flag and tell me what it represents to you cuz it doesn't represent freedom to me look how many native Americans were murdered in Cold blood those red stripes to me represent the blood shed innocent blood shed spilled by my native American ancestors so that you can sit here and talk about discrimination well think before you say anything else because we were discriminated against before you even talk about the Confederate flag that American flag is truly racist think about that onered stripes represent bloodshed spilled by my native American families each star represent the state that was wrongfully taken from my native American descendants so as long as the American flag flys I think that Confederate flag should stand……
I really appreciated the kid who said he was descended from the literal president of the CSA and still believed there were better ways to honors his ancestors. And the dudes saying there is no reason to fly it if you have no southern heritage personally. Chris was by and far the GOAT in this debate, but I want to put some respect on some of the less known kids who helped support his "side" of the argument, even if it was only a couple on sentences from them.
white people should not get to speak on things that harm minorities, they are in power they should listen to the oppressed, to the people who are left outside of their world and let them decide, because it concerns them! they are the targets!! they need to have the space to speak up about the opression they face, for being part of a minority, for being born where they were and for looking and speaking how they do. they need to lead the conversation not white people.
I'm concerned the one young man doesn't understand that this was mostly Mexico and Mexican Peoples are Native Americans that are Not Defined by a Border,…….so a Flag is jus a Piece of Cloth,….!
I notice everybody in the comments is saying that the class is laughing AT Chris, but I really don’t think that’s what’s going on. They laughed AT Drake, especially when he said “I completely disagree” after Chris said nothing but facts. I’m pretty sure they’re laughing bc he’s absolutely destroying Drake the second he opens his mouth
The South was Democrat, Jefferson the President of The Confederacy was a Democrat, as was Robert E. Lee. Democrats fought desegregation in thd 1950's, and civil rights marchers were hit with fire hoses….in Southern Democrat cities. Did the kids learn any of that?
The one aspect of the Confederate flag as a symbol that's being conveniently gaslighted is that of a "Rebel" flag. No rebels allowed in a conformist, obedient population. To put it in perspective, the American Colonies were "Rebels" to England when they went their own way.
This argument is so stupid, no one sees nazi Germany pride themselves and fly and wear the swastika symbol, so why should people fly and pride themselves on the confederate flag? Both sides represented hate and bigotry twoard a minority, but only one is ostracized 🤨
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth." – Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens (Cornerstone Speech)
The Civil War started a couple weeks after this speech. Tell me that the Civil War wasn't about slavery and I'll know you are either a liar or an idiot.
Well if the US flag doesn’t represent freedoms because we “stole” land from native Americans then literally every single countries flag would be a sign of hate, since almost all land ever was taken over by someone else.
I’ve never seen such a large swath of people who just add nothing to the conservation. “Oh well people find that offensive! What do you say about that?” How many times you need that question answered for you? Such bad faith demonstrated here. People trying to win off of optics instead of the truth. If you have nothing to say then do the world and favor and be quiet.
but what about the slave's that just went back to the land they were working for years even after being free, they choose to go back to those lands and work them even after being set free
Lincoln started the war and waged the war to preserve the Union and said so himself. It was only a year or so into the war that the Emancipation Proclamation was given. And guess what else? It was only an effort to free slaves in the Southern states in hopes that it would create a slave uprising in the South while the Northern states could keep their slaves. In other words, it was a war measure. Lol. No, the North wasn't holier than thou, and no, the war wasn't to free the slaves—it was waged for the preservation of the Union. Again, it is precisely Lincoln's own words that prove that point. Hundreds of thousands of innocent lives lost to preserve the Union. A total shame.
Lose the idea that the North was holier than thou. Many of you are stuck in the Righteous Cause myth mentality.
When Matt Damon wandered a few doors past Mathematics to the History/Philosophy departments that were sharing a space during renovation… The film that never was..
In one sense, anyone born in America is a native American. In the ethnic sense, there are no native Americans. The people we call Native Americans crossed a land bridge from Asia. Were they Native Asians? If as scientists seem to believe, humankind originated in Africa, are we not all Native Africans.
Every American should read the Articles of Secession by each state that seceded, they clearly state that the cause for secession was the defense of slavery and several states also listed white supremacy as a cause.
It’s actually sad because the north’s intentions wasn’t too free the slaves. The civil war was masked as a war to end slavery when really it was a war over economic riches. The South was rich because it utilized slaves to do work which boosted their economy. The North had mostly white men working who couldn’t compete with the production of goods being processed by the South. Thus they wanted to impose heavy taxes on the south to make up for the economic gap between the north and south. The south didn’t agree and parted ways from the union. North made slavery illegal to combat the south’s rich economic and thus later a war followed.
Hey if anyone want to learn history ..check out the underground history guy on ytube ..he show all about history ..ww1ww2. Civil war .he take you to all the place .and show you where everything happen ..it interest and maybe you can learn something …he connect to gettsburg museum he take you differ one and to mount veron the home of George Washington ….and other ..so as I hope you can check him out ..and maybe learn ..to side to thing ..and hear the story of people and place where they stood …well good luck I hope you like .
If you want to fly a flag that symbolizes your inability to be pushed. You can fly the Come and Take it Flag, you can fly the Cuban flag. The fact of the matter is that the confederacy lost, they said that they couldn't be pushed, and got curb stomped. Why would someone fly the flag of a loser? That flag is the flag of a sore loser at this point. That is what that flag stands for
I hope we can all at least agree that slavery is bad, that racism is bad, and that everyone should be treated fairly and equally. If we can agree at these points, then I think we all should know what to do or not do with the Confederate flag.
Everyone in the comment section backing Chris up but he is still wrong. The Confederate flag was not about slavery. I'd like to see this kid debate Ry@n D@wson on this topic and see how well these arguments still stand. I wouldn't be surprised if they get destroyed by Ryan.
this is what America stands for.Youre opinions do not grind on peoples rights.Let me start by dealing with slavery.Slavery was based not on color but on opportunity. Europeans owned Europeans Africa owned Africans And African were owned by Africans centries before British or Europeans.Who do you think sold or traded the African people to the European British the Arabs,etc.The chief tribes of Afica captured diffrent tribes after winning battles.Then became there slaves for centries.Until the white man or Europeans and British traded them after they were able to cross the ocean.in 1783 the treaty of Paris ended the war in great Britain If you read this.It says there are 13 saveran Nations.Each state was a nation these states came together as principles 1787 and they create the federal Government.as there agent.and principles can always fire there agents.If you read the radifaction document.New York and Virginia they specifically say in the DOCUMENTS that the federal government becomes abusive we have that right to succeed.walter William's go to his youtube the young man is 100 percent right the Confederate flag was miss represented later on as racist but it wasnt about slavery it was mostly about.If the government doesnt treet a state good they can basically fire the Federal government because the states were principle that came together and created the federal government.Most peopk today thinks.the Federal government created the states.But actually the states created the federal governments.congress acts that same way
There is a follow up video on Chris here for anyone wondering!
https://youtu.be/fNgRQB9-l-A
It's heritage not hatred I'm a Cherokee Indian and my family fought for the Confederate army do not disrespect history it's heritage not hatred get it right flag is just an object and it's not even the real Confederate Battle flag it was made after the war was over to honor the innocent women and children that were lost in that war from the Confederate families it should be treated with respect not disrespect or dishonor now if you want to talk about racism look at Nazis skinhead games those are racist people they should not be using that Confederate flag is a symbol of hatrednow you want to see a true symbolism of hatred look at that American flag that represents removal murder lies and slavery of native Americansnative Americans that have lived here for thousands of years before you put them on reservations like prisoners of war fantasy government boarding schools where you murdered our innocent children you want to talk about racism look at the USA flag does red stripes represent innocent blood shed spilled by native Americans so forget you your American flag is racist
you really want to talk about racism look at that American flag and tell me what it represents to you cuz it doesn't represent freedom to me look how many native Americans were murdered in Cold blood those red stripes to me represent the blood shed innocent blood shed spilled by my native American ancestors so that you can sit here and talk about discrimination well think before you say anything else because we were discriminated against before you even talk about the Confederate flag that American flag is truly racist think about that onered stripes represent bloodshed spilled by my native American families each star represent the state that was wrongfully taken from my native American descendants so as long as the American flag flys I think that Confederate flag should stand……
I don't view the confederate flag as a symbol of hat but a symbol or ignorance
I really appreciated the kid who said he was descended from the literal president of the CSA and still believed there were better ways to honors his ancestors. And the dudes saying there is no reason to fly it if you have no southern heritage personally. Chris was by and far the GOAT in this debate, but I want to put some respect on some of the less known kids who helped support his "side" of the argument, even if it was only a couple on sentences from them.
white people should not get to speak on things that harm minorities, they are in power they should listen to the oppressed, to the people who are left outside of their world and let them decide, because it concerns them! they are the targets!! they need to have the space to speak up about the opression they face, for being part of a minority, for being born where they were and for looking and speaking how they do. they need to lead the conversation not white people.
The most crucial question is whether symbols are lifeless; for example, the confederate flag or any other flag or symbol is lifeless.
Sadly, humanity has a conflict over lifeless things, including going to war.
I'm concerned the one young man doesn't understand that this was mostly Mexico and Mexican Peoples are Native Americans that are Not Defined by a Border,…….so a Flag is jus a Piece of Cloth,….!
As soon as I saw Drake in the thumbnail, I somehow immediately knew his stance lmao
I notice everybody in the comments is saying that the class is laughing AT Chris, but I really don’t think that’s what’s going on. They laughed AT Drake, especially when he said “I completely disagree” after Chris said nothing but facts. I’m pretty sure they’re laughing bc he’s absolutely destroying Drake the second he opens his mouth
God, I love hearing Americans speaking intellectually, without a bunch of clutter and drama. Mr. Justice is very well-spoken.
The South was Democrat, Jefferson the President of The Confederacy was a Democrat, as was Robert E. Lee.
Democrats fought desegregation in thd 1950's, and civil rights marchers were hit with fire hoses….in Southern Democrat cities.
Did the kids learn any of that?
Shawnee mission east is a prep school! End statement
Boy in the hoodie with glasses is going places in life!
IMHO anyone flying the confederate flag of racism and American treason should be shot on sight as a sworn enemy of my country
Chris is goated, these other students are brainwashed and clearly can’t tell the difference between facts and opinions. .
Isabel and Chris for the win!!!!
The one aspect of the Confederate flag as a symbol that's being conveniently gaslighted is that of a "Rebel" flag. No rebels allowed in a conformist, obedient population. To put it in perspective, the American Colonies were "Rebels" to England when they went their own way.
This argument is so stupid, no one sees nazi Germany pride themselves and fly and wear the swastika symbol, so why should people fly and pride themselves on the confederate flag? Both sides represented hate and bigotry twoard a minority, but only one is ostracized 🤨
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
– Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens (Cornerstone Speech)
The Civil War started a couple weeks after this speech.
Tell me that the Civil War wasn't about slavery and I'll know you are either a liar or an idiot.
Well if the US flag doesn’t represent freedoms because we “stole” land from native Americans then literally every single countries flag would be a sign of hate, since almost all land ever was taken over by someone else.
I’ve never seen such a large swath of people who just add nothing to the conservation. “Oh well people find that offensive! What do you say about that?” How many times you need that question answered for you? Such bad faith demonstrated here. People trying to win off of optics instead of the truth. If you have nothing to say then do the world and favor and be quiet.
but what about the slave's that just went back to the land they were working for years even after being free, they choose to go back to those lands and work them even after being set free
Abraham Lincoln was a racist war criminal who waged war to preserve the Union, not to end slavery.
This teacher is so passive aggressive lol
Lincoln started the war and waged the war to preserve the Union and said so himself. It was only a year or so into the war that the Emancipation Proclamation was given. And guess what else? It was only an effort to free slaves in the Southern states in hopes that it would create a slave uprising in the South while the Northern states could keep their slaves. In other words, it was a war measure. Lol. No, the North wasn't holier than thou, and no, the war wasn't to free the slaves—it was waged for the preservation of the Union. Again, it is precisely Lincoln's own words that prove that point. Hundreds of thousands of innocent lives lost to preserve the Union. A total shame.
Lose the idea that the North was holier than thou. Many of you are stuck in the Righteous Cause myth mentality.
Chris smashed the whole class, and the teacher with his opening barrage…👍
#micdrop..
Both flags are trash lets be real
When Matt Damon wandered a few doors past Mathematics to the History/Philosophy departments that were sharing a space during renovation… The film that never was..
In one sense, anyone born in America is a native American. In the ethnic sense, there are no native Americans. The people we call Native Americans crossed a land bridge from Asia. Were they Native Asians? If as scientists seem to believe, humankind originated in Africa, are we not all Native Africans.
Every American should read the Articles of Secession by each state that seceded, they clearly state that the cause for secession was the defense of slavery and several states also listed white supremacy as a cause.
THIS IS EDUCATION PEOPLE…….THIS TEACHER GOES DOWN AS A GOAT
i can't stand how that teacher won't let chris say anything at all. it's annoying.
It’s actually sad because the north’s intentions wasn’t too free the slaves. The civil war was masked as a war to end slavery when really it was a war over economic riches. The South was rich because it utilized slaves to do work which boosted their economy. The North had mostly white men working who couldn’t compete with the production of goods being processed by the South. Thus they wanted to impose heavy taxes on the south to make up for the economic gap between the north and south. The south didn’t agree and parted ways from the union. North made slavery illegal to combat the south’s rich economic and thus later a war followed.
This girl listening to selena gomez and not paying attention is pissing me off
There’s not enough colored people in this room for me . It feels like girls + chris vs boys.
I would vote for Chris if he was running for office.
Hey if anyone want to learn history ..check out the underground history guy on ytube ..he show all about history ..ww1ww2. Civil war .he take you to all the place .and show you where everything happen ..it interest and maybe you can learn something …he connect to gettsburg museum he take you differ one and to mount veron the home of George Washington ….and other ..so as I hope you can check him out ..and maybe learn ..to side to thing ..and hear the story of people and place where they stood …well good luck I hope you like .
I wanna know what Chris is doing today. I already know this kid is successful.
If you want to fly a flag that symbolizes your inability to be pushed. You can fly the Come and Take it Flag, you can fly the Cuban flag. The fact of the matter is that the confederacy lost, they said that they couldn't be pushed, and got curb stomped. Why would someone fly the flag of a loser? That flag is the flag of a sore loser at this point. That is what that flag stands for
I hope we can all at least agree that slavery is bad, that racism is bad, and that everyone should be treated fairly and equally. If we can agree at these points, then I think we all should know what to do or not do with the Confederate flag.
Everyone in the comment section backing Chris up but he is still wrong. The Confederate flag was not about slavery. I'd like to see this kid debate Ry@n D@wson on this topic and see how well these arguments still stand. I wouldn't be surprised if they get destroyed by Ryan.
Strange how states – totalitarian or democratic embrace the symbolism of coloured cloth with the same fervour ? – Dangerous too !
the females in this class are really subpar! Why are they even being educated??? Look at them browsing youtube videos!
Everyone knows the real confederate flag is a plain white surrender flag.
this is what America stands for.Youre opinions do not grind on peoples rights.Let me start by dealing with slavery.Slavery was based not on color but on opportunity.
Europeans owned Europeans Africa owned Africans And African were owned by Africans centries before British or Europeans.Who do you think sold or traded the African people to the European British the Arabs,etc.The chief tribes of Afica captured diffrent tribes after winning battles.Then became there slaves for centries.Until the white man or Europeans and British traded them after they were able to cross the ocean.in 1783 the treaty of Paris ended the war in great Britain If you read this.It says there are 13 saveran Nations.Each state was a nation these states came together as principles 1787 and they create the federal Government.as there agent.and principles can always fire there agents.If you read the radifaction document.New York and Virginia they specifically say in the DOCUMENTS that the federal government becomes abusive we have that right to succeed.walter William's go to his youtube the young man is 100 percent right the Confederate flag was miss represented later on as racist but it wasnt about slavery it was mostly about.If the government doesnt treet a state good they can basically fire the Federal government because the states were principle that came together and created the federal government.Most peopk today thinks.the Federal government created the states.But actually the states created the federal governments.congress acts that same way