What does it mean to say that God is slow to anger? In the Bible, Godâs anger is a just response to human evil, which is motivated âŠ
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In the Bible, we read that God gets angry. But why? And what is it that makes God angry?
The first time God gets angry in the Bible is not in the garden of Eden, or in the flood story, or even in the ruin of Sodom and Gomorrah. Godâs first display of anger is with Moses at the burning bush (see Exodus 4:14). This is significant because it shows that Godâs acts of justice against human evil are not always connected with divine anger. Rather, Godâs anger is most consistently expressed against his covenant people Israel, precisely because they were entrusted with the responsibility of representing God to the nations (see Exodus 19:1-6).
In the Bible, God gets most angry with the people in whom heâs made the greatest relational investment. Also, Godâs anger is not a primary character trait. Godâs anger is a response to human betrayal and evil, and itâs rooted in Godâs justice and loveâtwo key components of Godâs very nature. To be angry at violent evil and let that anger motivate the pursuit of justice and restoration, these are good things. And thatâs precisely what God is up to in the Bible. His âslow angerâ means that he allows people lots of time to change. Pharaoh got ten chances in Exodus, and Moses objected five times to Godâs request before there was any anger (see Exodus 3-4).
The apostle Paul summarizes this Old Testament message well when he says that God is ârich in kindness and tolerance and slow-anger,â and itâs âthe kindness of God that leads us to turn aroundâ (Romans 2:4). Itâs this tension between Godâs patience, justice, and love that drives the biblical story forward to Jesus. In his life, death, and resurrection, we see Godâs love and justice meet together to overcome evil and unleash the power of divine forgiveness and love into the world. All of this and more is packed into the biblical idea that God is slow to anger.
Thankyou @Bibleproject for this amazing imagery, really helps to understand God more, however, God does have a nose. In Genesis 1:26 it says: And God said, Let us make man in OUR IMAGE, AFTER OUR LIKENESS. We look like God
Nehemiah 9:17â They refused to listen and failed to remember the wonders You performed among them. They stiffened their necks and appointed a leader to return them to their bondage in Egypt. But You are a forgiving EL, gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and rich in loving devotion, and You did not forsake them.
The overwhelming majority of Christians are victims of something akin to the Stockholm syndrome where the victim develops positive feelings or even love for the abuser or oppressor.
Itâs technically an emotional defense coping mechanism. Victims pass on the fear and guilt that ensnared them, entrapping new victims (converts) utilizing the brain washing process known as evangelism, or âsharing the good newsâ. It has gone on for centuries.
All of the Abrahamic religions share the same issue.
Christianity âsalesâ (evangelism) are always presented by one or two angles. First, avoid a horrific, torturous eternity in hell. Second, gain the benefits of eternal life in a wonderful, amazing place full of gumdrops, ice cream, and rainbows that never end.
Guilt is the driver. You are horrible so you are going to hell, BUT, lucky for you thereâs a god who loves you enough (the same one who already condemned you to horror) to give you all of this wonderful stuff forever and ever, BUT, if you decide to not love god uncoerced, then god will send you to hell. What says âunconditional loveâ better than that!?
Essentially this âgodâ Christians are taught about declares everyone guilty by default, deserving of an eternity of torment, but if you crawl like a little worm for it (this god), then the god will grant you life⊠and people love this god for that?! People donât see how sick that is? That would be like an abused child loving his parents even more as soon as they stop beating him for a while, thanking them for not beating him even more than they did.
Guilt, guilt guilt. Everything is driven by the guilt and fear of disappointing or angering their god.
A human with that kind of âloveâ would be considered a maniacal, abusive, sadistic monster who we would try to keep behind bars.
The god of the Bible is a picture of the most emotional, needy little kid one can imagine.
So how do you ask God to forgive you, try your hardest to not commit your sins again and become more like him? Be grateful that Jesus already died for them and change for the better?
How do you receive Gods forgiveness?
Grateful for this one. Every new video about Gods character makes me understand his ways and intentions better.
Slow to anger, not that He never gets angry, make sure you do not exhaust that patience because it is a terrible thing God's anger. He takes a long time to get angry but when He does, you do not want to be near that Wrath! So be fearfully respectful of Him.
YAHWEH knows, no mercy. Acknowledging zealous rite, we find a double edged sworde; modest. There is one who might worship none, dough all must worship. The name of Emmanuel, the living Jesus? Any good son know its kingly father is a judge, and at war.
Where there is mercy. Keep mind, some realms offer no mercy. Better be duh servant of duh, than master of duh pour. As an angel, I have seen duh face of Yahveh sum number of times. And, in reality, I know. She and he, created one; either one is oneâŠ. A uniform ceremony. And, the face of God is Eve. Thus, Adam. By the time you see my face, you are dead. God-like mankind, a. Bothe, womanly womankind.
In a spirit, as an angel; there is no sin, as what I do must be justness. Just. Gold is refined inward fire. People cannot simply walk away from evil. Eye for an eye, my sword, cherubim, mightier than the pen. Why? Because, sum peoples never learned to be independent; the option, to forgiveâŠ. Let it not be the command, in mandate. I never asked, and I need none; no forgiveness. Â
People cannot see a Goddess, cause; they cannot see a God in the self.
This is why I don't believe in vigilante justice. taking Justice into your own hands. I believe that if somebody is bullying you you should tell somebody in the proper authority and let them handle it. Even if it is slow. if the person being bullied took justice into their own hands, then they would become just as guilty as the bully and suffer the consequences rightly even though they were defending themselves. God has appointed certain people in authority to handle these situations and us as individual citizens do not have that authority unless God is given it to us.
Every morning I go for a walk before the sun is up. Pray and ask God our father how his day is going. Heâs like my best friend who I enjoy being around. I read the Bible and then by the time morning comes and the sun is up, I feel full of energy, loving and calm. God has prepared me to be in peace for the rest of the day and to glorify his name in all that I do. That is my biggest tool against the evil of this worldâ€ïž
When you have no Lâ€ïžâđ„VE left to give the ones you Lâ€ïžâđ„VE most because of what they did, that Lâ€ïžâđ„VE then needs to turn into Mercy.
Wow just wow. Thank you for being obedient and exalting God and spreading the gospel with your gifts. Youâve reached so many people with Godâs word and cleared so much corruption of the word. I pray God continues to strengthen you with grace and joy. Amen âșïžđđŸ
Someone was speaking recently about ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for sexual immorality and by doing so deny Jesus Christ
I used to think, "Wow God is scary" when I read Revelations as a child, after experiencing humanity for the past 20+ years, "wow we are scaryâ I'm scary."
I've been abused my whole life by everyone and now my head is messed up Tell God to help me but he doesn't and he knows I'm on edge all the time He wouldn't care if I act on those dumb emotions and thoughts like everyone else
In the Bible, we read that God gets angry. But why? And what is it that makes God angry?
The first time God gets angry in the Bible is not in the garden of Eden, or in the flood story, or even in the ruin of Sodom and Gomorrah. Godâs first display of anger is with Moses at the burning bush (see Exodus 4:14). This is significant because it shows that Godâs acts of justice against human evil are not always connected with divine anger. Rather, Godâs anger is most consistently expressed against his covenant people Israel, precisely because they were entrusted with the responsibility of representing God to the nations (see Exodus 19:1-6).
In the Bible, God gets most angry with the people in whom heâs made the greatest relational investment. Also, Godâs anger is not a primary character trait. Godâs anger is a response to human betrayal and evil, and itâs rooted in Godâs justice and loveâtwo key components of Godâs very nature. To be angry at violent evil and let that anger motivate the pursuit of justice and restoration, these are good things. And thatâs precisely what God is up to in the Bible. His âslow angerâ means that he allows people lots of time to change. Pharaoh got ten chances in Exodus, and Moses objected five times to Godâs request before there was any anger (see Exodus 3-4).
The apostle Paul summarizes this Old Testament message well when he says that God is ârich in kindness and tolerance and slow-anger,â and itâs âthe kindness of God that leads us to turn aroundâ (Romans 2:4). Itâs this tension between Godâs patience, justice, and love that drives the biblical story forward to Jesus. In his life, death, and resurrection, we see Godâs love and justice meet together to overcome evil and unleash the power of divine forgiveness and love into the world. All of this and more is packed into the biblical idea that God is slow to anger.
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This was so helpful!â€ïž
Thankyou @Bibleproject for this amazing imagery, really helps to understand God more, however, God does have a nose. In Genesis 1:26 it says: And God said, Let us make man in OUR IMAGE, AFTER OUR LIKENESS. We look like God
Nehemiah 9:17â
They refused to listen and failed to remember the wonders You performed among them. They stiffened their necks and appointed a leader to return them to their bondage in Egypt. But You are a forgiving EL, gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and rich in loving devotion, and You did not forsake them.
What a good God we serve!!!!!!!!! Praise God!
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I need to learn how to be slow to anger. Easily i got angry. I need God almighty
I need to learn how to be slow to anger. Easily i get angry. I need God almighty
The overwhelming majority of Christians are victims of something akin to the Stockholm syndrome where the victim develops positive feelings or even love for the abuser or oppressor.
Itâs technically an emotional defense coping mechanism. Victims pass on the fear and guilt that ensnared them, entrapping new victims (converts) utilizing the brain washing process known as evangelism, or âsharing the good newsâ. It has gone on for centuries.
All of the Abrahamic religions share the same issue.
Christianity âsalesâ (evangelism) are always presented by one or two angles. First, avoid a horrific, torturous eternity in hell. Second, gain the benefits of eternal life in a wonderful, amazing place full of gumdrops, ice cream, and rainbows that never end.
Guilt is the driver. You are horrible so you are going to hell, BUT, lucky for you thereâs a god who loves you enough (the same one who already condemned you to horror) to give you all of this wonderful stuff forever and ever, BUT, if you decide to not love god uncoerced, then god will send you to hell. What says âunconditional loveâ better than that!?
Essentially this âgodâ Christians are taught about declares everyone guilty by default, deserving of an eternity of torment, but if you crawl like a little worm for it (this god), then the god will grant you life⊠and people love this god for that?! People donât see how sick that is? That would be like an abused child loving his parents even more as soon as they stop beating him for a while, thanking them for not beating him even more than they did.
Guilt, guilt guilt. Everything is driven by the guilt and fear of disappointing or angering their god.
A human with that kind of âloveâ would be considered a maniacal, abusive, sadistic monster who we would try to keep behind bars.
The god of the Bible is a picture of the most emotional, needy little kid one can imagine.
So how do you ask God to forgive you, try your hardest to not commit your sins again and become more like him? Be grateful that Jesus already died for them and change for the better?
How do you receive Gods forgiveness?
Grateful for this one. Every new video about Gods character makes me understand his ways and intentions better.
The LORD expresses his love for us through his slow anger :] â€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïž
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God bless you. This is what you were called to do. I understand soooo much now because of you. Thank you đđŸ
Slow to anger, not that He never gets angry, make sure you do not exhaust that patience because it is a terrible thing God's anger. He takes a long time to get angry but when He does, you do not want to be near that Wrath! So be fearfully respectful of Him.
These animations are impressive. Do you guys use after effects?
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YAHWEH knows, no mercy. Acknowledging zealous rite, we find a double edged sworde; modest. There is one who might worship none, dough all must worship. The name of Emmanuel, the living Jesus? Any good son know its kingly father is a judge, and at war.
Where there is mercy. Keep mind, some realms offer no mercy. Better be duh servant of duh, than master of duh pour. As an angel, I have seen duh face of Yahveh sum number of times. And, in reality, I know. She and he, created one; either one is oneâŠ. A uniform ceremony. And, the face of God is Eve. Thus, Adam. By the time you see my face, you are dead. God-like mankind, a. Bothe, womanly womankind.
In a spirit, as an angel; there is no sin, as what I do must be justness. Just. Gold is refined inward fire. People cannot simply walk away from evil. Eye for an eye, my sword, cherubim, mightier than the pen. Why? Because, sum peoples never learned to be independent; the option, to forgiveâŠ. Let it not be the command, in mandate. I never asked, and I need none; no forgiveness. Â
People cannot see a Goddess, cause; they cannot see a God in the self.
Hot nose is also related to allergies lol
This is such a good video to describe God's anger
Nehemiah 9
17. And refused to obey, neither were mindful of thy wonders that thou didst among them; but hardened their necks, and in their rebellion appointed a captain to return to their bondage: but thou art a God ready to pardon, gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and forsookest them not.
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Psalm 145
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Nahum 1
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Jonah 4
2. And he prayed unto the LORD, and said, I pray thee, O LORD, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.
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Joel 2
13. And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
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The art is really good and it's very talented
Yes, slow to anger is the key word and God is slow to anger,. We needs to be the same slow ro angar. I need to do it more offers,
I love this explanation. The conclusion is, God is justified in whatever He does.
I have a question: What is better: Slow to Anger or not to anger at all? Why not medium to anger at all?
I really would like to know the answer
God is slow to get angry and gives us many opportunities to turn our lives towards Him. That You Lord!
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Working hard on my⊠slow to anger!!
This is why I don't believe in vigilante justice. taking Justice into your own hands. I believe that if somebody is bullying you you should tell somebody in the proper authority and let them handle it. Even if it is slow. if the person being bullied took justice into their own hands, then they would become just as guilty as the bully and suffer the consequences rightly even though they were defending themselves. God has appointed certain people in authority to handle these situations and us as individual citizens do not have that authority unless God is given it to us.
Every morning I go for a walk before the sun is up. Pray and ask God our father how his day is going. Heâs like my best friend who I enjoy being around. I read the Bible and then by the time morning comes and the sun is up, I feel full of energy, loving and calm. God has prepared me to be in peace for the rest of the day and to glorify his name in all that I do. That is my biggest tool against the evil of this worldâ€ïž
When you have no Lâ€ïžâđ„VE left to give the ones you
Lâ€ïžâđ„VE most because of what they did, that Lâ€ïžâđ„VE then needs to turn into Mercy.
-Fr. PJ
Wow just wow. Thank you for being obedient and exalting God and spreading the gospel with your gifts. Youâve reached so many people with Godâs word and cleared so much corruption of the word. I pray God continues to strengthen you with grace and joy.
Amen âșïžđđŸ
Someone was speaking recently about ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for sexual immorality and by doing so deny Jesus Christ
The long nose scene cracked me up lol
Amen
when are we having the pristhood of jesus, raated to the priest in the church?
I used to think, "Wow God is scary" when I read Revelations as a child, after experiencing humanity for the past 20+ years, "wow we are scaryâ I'm scary."
I've been abused my whole life by everyone and now my head is messed up
Tell God to help me but he doesn't and he knows I'm on edge all the time
He wouldn't care if I act on those dumb emotions and thoughts like everyone else
Why do you say that God doesn't have a nose, where's the proof?