Morning everyone. I find it so ironic that T.D. Jakes is possibly getting exposed now. I attended his church for 8 months from November 2021-July 2022. That place definitely gives out cult vibes. The biggest turnoffs of his church include: β Unfriendly congregation members, especially the vast majority of male church members being standoffish/unapproachable β Nice nasty staff members β Jerk security guards β The fact that Jakes himself and his praise team singers are unapproachable to regular people β The fact that every single service you attend he expects you to stand up holding up your tithe envelope/phone confirming that you're paying money to this church π
Everybodyβs a victim, but too date nobody has not even phone records π§π€ Take all with a grain of π§ this could be an inside takedown where nothing needs too be true just have the illusion of truth, ie witnesses (fake witness )
Celestial from "The Masters Voice" prophesied the fall of T.D. Jakes years ago. She said the Most High gave him 10 yrs to repent back in 2014 but he would not Closet homosexual, Underage boys, Freemasonry, Worldwide viewing of his fall from grace in the media, Him trying to fight many sexual claims in court and then ultimately his death was prophesied. Not only him. Many pastors were named because play time is over in the churches. People are sympathizers of sin and the Most High is tired. Come out of her my people, be not partakers of her sins or suffer the plagues with her! Repent because there are no do overs when you are dead! https://youtu.be/Xg0zocKQfKU?si=flqWneJueJU2O_ke
I believe Mannesah being brave enough to come forth to shed light on the hypocrisy of a Religious leader that some worshipped, itβs allowing a safe space for others to come forth and get the justice they deserve. Itβs not in the news or etc because we know that the media can be paid. We see βhimβ taking all precautions to even strike ppls channels to not get the info out. Plus, a lot of ppl donβt believe Mannesah so of course itβs not going anywhere. But the fact that he even gave us a some type of curiosity to pay more attention to these type of ppl and now more ppl and evidence is coming forth, yea heβs making an impact. And saying heβs not a victim meaning that even though the βgroomingβ was being put on him, heβs not a slave to his trauma. He choosing himself and not the victim but while yet bringing awareness to those who donβt have a voice.
As far as filing charges, some of these very ppl are the ones that looked up to this man. They know his power. They see how big he is. Plus, you know how expensive that must be to even get a lawyer to take your on case to take down a βpublic figureβ? And also that could put them and their family lives in danger. Not everyone is offered money! Wake up yall!
Because I donβt agree with TDJ (potter house) donβt mean I have to agree with these guys who are trying to get (bring down) someone else for a dead associate!! π«₯
Hey Lakeysha, I believe the victims cases are being stalled, to make sure TD Jakes doesnβt pay off their attorneys, like he did the girl whoβs baby was stolen by Cora Jakes.
Interesting⦠I hope he is ok. He was preaching at his church etc; Not sure about these celebrities like manaseha. He is Larry Reid's pastor son and no one ever said anything. The story runs deep they all knew this for years if it is what it is.
Good morning βοΈfrom a therapist who was raised in the Catholic church and was s trafficked by my own mother. A few thoughts: the term "grooming" is only used so frequently now because of Tiktok. In clinical terms, grooming is not limited to an age of victim or to physical contact. We use the term "coercive control" instead so we're able to be more inclusive of victims and more accurate to what science says. You're correct that Manassa would be considered a victim legally. That term has a legal definition. He would also be what therapists consider a victim and a survivor. One way I can tell if someone has had good therapy or not (and enough) is by how comfortable they are applying these terms to themselves and others. For most survivors, especially men, it takes years, if not decades, of therapy before they feel like that label describes them. Men tend to feel even more shame than women, so we have even fewer men willing to talk publicly about this AND we tend to question men's seggual orientation when they come forward more than women. I've been watching several of my favorite gossip channels, including yours, cover this. I find that most of these religious people who want to help now are STILL not doing so with the assistance of us therapists. We do have therapists who specialize in spiritual a*buse and SA. When these people don't have the training and education that I have, they don't understand how risky they're behaving. Ask people like Monassa if he knows what to do if a victim disclosed to him that they wanted to hurt themselves OR their perpetrator. He won't know anything about this. I've lost many people to unaliving (I hate using these Tiktok terms but don't want your channel pinged). When someone comes to you and they have never told anyone about this, you may find you're also the person they turn to when they want to end their life. In that moment, seconds matter. As a Christian myself, I am incredibly skeptical of any influencer who solicits victims' stories. It feels exploitive. It feels self serving. For those who would prefer a professional, I recommend RAINN. They have a 24 hour hotline. In addition, they have a speakers program so that people who do not work in MH can share their stories publicly and will be trained to know what to do if they're confronted with a victim who's in trouble. I consider myself of survivor, but some people prefer to call themselves a victimβ¦especially in the immediate aftermath. Another great resource is the National Association of Social Work (NASW). There is a chapter in every state. Their Board members are the most well connected in the state, so they can be a great lead to find real experts for this specific kind of a*use.β€
You asked what does Mannasah want? Well he wants justice to expose TD Jakes behavior to the world as he portrays to be something heβs notβ¦itβs not always about money especially when you have plenty of money like Mannasahπ
If manessa us not a vuctim, then my question us, is He using his platform to push the the real victims are away so Manessa as a mean to play the false supporter to T D Jakes? I don't know. He's playing the role of the secret instagatet if you ask me.
Game recognize game this is nothing but a game listen he don't even know the scripture gift without repentance is talking about the gift that God gives he won't repent for what he had blessed and start upon a person tell this crackhead to go somewhere and sit down and I'm not a bishop Jakes follower I follow the truth I'm from the streets game recognize game all the time he ran with the white man Benny hinn he never got groomed by him why is it that black man that always called out you all get back with me on this question if these profits are so prophetic why didn't he see the grooming coming and he could prevent it they're not prophets they are p r o f its
Early on he said he struggled with his sexuality from the horses mouth and claimed he was healed if these accusations are true he is also lied on the ALMIGHTY willingly and boastfully
This is sad. When I was in the world dating. I never aloud not no one come to my house. I have 1 girl an 3 boys. It's was my number one rule. Cause you never know.
What he means when he says, "I'm not a victim", is he refuses to solely LABEL himself as a "victim", which only leaves him in a victimhood mind set. Instead, I think he's saying he's a "survivor" which empowers him to move on, to heal, and to live victoriously while exposing the ugly truth.
It appears when there is a time line in which the Jakes team needs to respond, it is giving shake down. Now, this is not victim shaming but the message and how it is giving makes it seem it is just false claims. The text message "receipt" appears to be TO Bishop Jakes and not FROM Jakes. I feel that incident may be true BUT lets get on with it and file the suit or press charges. I am just the outside person looking in the window. Let's put fire behind that smoke and get this justice. Talking about it with threats to expose looks suspect ijs. If the prophet does not want to go the legal route, that is ok. Let him talk to a licensed professional to deal with it and lets move on. Nobody should be pressured to tell their story or press the issue if they are not ready for the possible backlash that comes with it.
Im going to show you hypocritical yall is Larry was also excused by 3 boys but yet some how yall gave him a pass , how Manassa is going to go to Larry about this and Larry is also excused of the same thing something in the milk aint right
I do not believe any of these accusations against TD Jakes is truth. Hollywood needs to take Jake's down to bring someone else up. Ya see it all the time.
God will be with you. God is going to take him out
Morning everyone. I find it so ironic that T.D. Jakes is possibly getting exposed now. I attended his church for 8 months from November 2021-July 2022. That place definitely gives out cult vibes. The biggest turnoffs of his church include:
β Unfriendly congregation members, especially the vast majority of male church members being standoffish/unapproachable
β Nice nasty staff members
β Jerk security guards
β The fact that Jakes himself and his praise team singers are unapproachable to regular people
β The fact that every single service you attend he expects you to stand up holding up your tithe envelope/phone confirming that you're paying money to this church π
Everybodyβs a victim, but too date nobody has not even phone records π§π€
Take all with a grain of π§ this could be an inside takedown where nothing needs too be true just have the illusion of truth, ie witnesses (fake witness )
P.S. neva been a fan of the potters house! Show the proof or stop talking!!!
Celestial from "The Masters Voice" prophesied the fall of T.D. Jakes years ago. She said the Most High gave him 10 yrs to repent back in 2014 but he would not Closet homosexual, Underage boys, Freemasonry, Worldwide viewing of his fall from grace in the media, Him trying to fight many sexual claims in court and then ultimately his death was prophesied. Not only him. Many pastors were named because play time is over in the churches. People are sympathizers of sin and the Most High is tired. Come out of her my people, be not partakers of her sins or suffer the plagues with her! Repent because there are no do overs when you are dead!
https://youtu.be/Xg0zocKQfKU?si=flqWneJueJU2O_ke
https://youtu.be/ojcrPJiD4Z8
I believe Mannesah being brave enough to come forth to shed light on the hypocrisy of a Religious leader that some worshipped, itβs allowing a safe space for others to come forth and get the justice they deserve. Itβs not in the news or etc because we know that the media can be paid. We see βhimβ taking all precautions to even strike ppls channels to not get the info out. Plus, a lot of ppl donβt believe Mannesah so of course itβs not going anywhere. But the fact that he even gave us a some type of curiosity to pay more attention to these type of ppl and now more ppl and evidence is coming forth, yea heβs making an impact. And saying heβs not a victim meaning that even though the βgroomingβ was being put on him, heβs not a slave to his trauma. He choosing himself and not the victim but while yet bringing awareness to those who donβt have a voice.
As far as filing charges, some of these very ppl are the ones that looked up to this man. They know his power. They see how big he is. Plus, you know how expensive that must be to even get a lawyer to take your on case to take down a βpublic figureβ? And also that could put them and their family lives in danger. Not everyone is offered money! Wake up yall!
Because I donβt agree with TDJ (potter house) donβt mean I have to agree with these guys who are trying to get (bring down) someone else for a dead associate!! π«₯
Hey Lakeysha, I believe the victims cases are being stalled, to make sure TD Jakes doesnβt pay off their attorneys, like he did the girl whoβs baby was stolen by Cora Jakes.
Interesting⦠I hope he is ok. He was preaching at his church etc; Not sure about these celebrities like manaseha. He is Larry Reid's pastor son and no one ever said anything. The story runs deep they all knew this for years if it is what it is.
I think manessa daddy th master prophet as they call him is worth like a hinnid million $. They don't need no money and that's a fact
Good morning βοΈfrom a therapist who was raised in the Catholic church and was s trafficked by my own mother. A few thoughts: the term "grooming" is only used so frequently now because of Tiktok. In clinical terms, grooming is not limited to an age of victim or to physical contact. We use the term "coercive control" instead so we're able to be more inclusive of victims and more accurate to what science says. You're correct that Manassa would be considered a victim legally. That term has a legal definition. He would also be what therapists consider a victim and a survivor. One way I can tell if someone has had good therapy or not (and enough) is by how comfortable they are applying these terms to themselves and others. For most survivors, especially men, it takes years, if not decades, of therapy before they feel like that label describes them. Men tend to feel even more shame than women, so we have even fewer men willing to talk publicly about this AND we tend to question men's seggual orientation when they come forward more than women. I've been watching several of my favorite gossip channels, including yours, cover this. I find that most of these religious people who want to help now are STILL not doing so with the assistance of us therapists. We do have therapists who specialize in spiritual a*buse and SA. When these people don't have the training and education that I have, they don't understand how risky they're behaving. Ask people like Monassa if he knows what to do if a victim disclosed to him that they wanted to hurt themselves OR their perpetrator. He won't know anything about this. I've lost many people to unaliving (I hate using these Tiktok terms but don't want your channel pinged). When someone comes to you and they have never told anyone about this, you may find you're also the person they turn to when they want to end their life. In that moment, seconds matter. As a Christian myself, I am incredibly skeptical of any influencer who solicits victims' stories. It feels exploitive. It feels self serving. For those who would prefer a professional, I recommend RAINN. They have a 24 hour hotline. In addition, they have a speakers program so that people who do not work in MH can share their stories publicly and will be trained to know what to do if they're confronted with a victim who's in trouble. I consider myself of survivor, but some people prefer to call themselves a victimβ¦especially in the immediate aftermath. Another great resource is the National Association of Social Work (NASW). There is a chapter in every state. Their Board members are the most well connected in the state, so they can be a great lead to find real experts for this specific kind of a*use.β€
When he says he's not a victim I believe he is saying that he did not allow himself to be sexually assaulted meaning engage in any sexual acts.
You asked what does Mannasah want? Well he wants justice to expose TD Jakes behavior to the world as he portrays to be something heβs notβ¦itβs not always about money especially when you have plenty of money like Mannasahπ
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Coming to social media is their call to TD Jakeβs to write that check (just like Christian Keys). That why nobody has filed anything.
If manessa us not a vuctim, then my question us, is He using his platform to push the the real victims are away so Manessa as a mean to play the false supporter to T D Jakes? I don't know. He's playing the role of the secret instagatet if you ask me.
Game recognize game this is nothing but a game listen he don't even know the scripture gift without repentance is talking about the gift that God gives he won't repent for what he had blessed and start upon a person tell this crackhead to go somewhere and sit down and I'm not a bishop Jakes follower I follow the truth I'm from the streets game recognize game all the time he ran with the white man Benny hinn he never got groomed by him why is it that black man that always called out you all get back with me on this question if these profits are so prophetic why didn't he see the grooming coming and he could prevent it they're not prophets they are p r o f its
Early on he said he struggled with his sexuality from the horses mouth and claimed he was healed if these accusations are true he is also lied on the ALMIGHTY willingly and boastfully
This is sad. When I was in the world dating. I never aloud not no one come to my house. I have 1 girl an 3 boys. It's was my number one rule. Cause you never know.
Sometimes it's not about $$. A public apology maybe what he wants with Jake's saying he did the things the young man is claiming.
What's done in the dark will eventually come to light it's all in God's timing
What he means when he says, "I'm not a victim", is he refuses to solely LABEL himself as a "victim", which only leaves him in a victimhood mind set. Instead, I think he's saying he's a "survivor" which empowers him to move on, to heal, and to live victoriously while exposing the ugly truth.
Sicko
Psalm 1. Be careful not to sit in the seat of the Scofferβs.
17 YEARSβ¦..SMH!!! π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘π‘
It appears when there is a time line in which the Jakes team needs to respond, it is giving shake down. Now, this is not victim shaming but the message and how it is giving makes it seem it is just false claims. The text message "receipt" appears to be TO Bishop Jakes and not FROM Jakes. I feel that incident may be true BUT lets get on with it and file the suit or press charges. I am just the outside person looking in the window. Let's put fire behind that smoke and get this justice. Talking about it with threats to expose looks suspect ijs. If the prophet does not want to go the legal route, that is ok. Let him talk to a licensed professional to deal with it and lets move on. Nobody should be pressured to tell their story or press the issue if they are not ready for the possible backlash that comes with it.
Td jakes def has sugar in his tank but when did Massesh actually say TD Jakes?
Im going to show you hypocritical yall is Larry was also excused by 3 boys but yet some how yall gave him a pass , how Manassa is going to go to Larry about this and Larry is also excused of the same thing something in the milk aint right
I do not believe any of these accusations against TD Jakes is truth. Hollywood needs to take Jake's down to bring someone else up. Ya see it all the time.