Among the doctrinal themes found in the many churches within NAR networks, none are as widespread as the notion of an End …
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Obviously 🙄 a secular rag paper is going to tell lies and smear the move of God. Secular sources from unbelievers are not a good source as to what God did. Read the righting of the men of God involved.
This end time revival will occur but by the power of the Antichrist. The Bible is crystal clear! The men of deception will make sigh, miracles and wonders and will deceive even the elect!!! Those people believe and preach this heresy because they are not from God. End times revival is related to: books, conferences, false importations , on line teachings, all of this is for PERSONAL GAINS … it is not about Jesus !
These displays of this strange behavior isn't like anything that ever happened in the Bible as a result of God's anointing. I don't trust it at all. It sounds more like mass hysteria!
The gift of tongues in the assembly, the church, is to be decent, in order, and a legitimate language. It is also to be interpreted. My great grandfather once preached a sermon in Mexico in Spanish. He did not know Spanish. It was a genuine and legitimate operation of the gift of tongues. A 14 year old girl whose father i know very well prayed in spanish for a man on the street in the dominican republic. She also did not know spanish and the interpreter and the man bore witness to the fact that she prayed for his exact need. Another legitimate instance. Much of the babbling i hear is not the gift of tongues. But i have experienced the true gift as well. It is always sweet and in order and gives honor to God as people receive legitimate ministry.
Thank you for researching topics we are told to accept on an emotional level. We are told to love God with all of our heart, soul, MIND and strength. If this was revival… no thanks!
i dont think there is a problem of praying and asking for Revival, but i dont see it happening as to what i read in the Bible coving End Times Events !!!
I recall football games when people were caught up in a spirit of the game Holy ghost expression needs godly revision and order But the holy ghost given on the day of Pentecost is what God's church must have As said I saw people exhausted and barely able to speak over a stupid football game Loud praise to God is great The Baptist are dead in praise But allow shouting at games I'll take a Holy praise to God every time
This is NOT an unbiased report and treats the reports of the critics as if they are unbiased fact. The truth is that "objectivity" in media reporting was nearly 40 years away, and muckraking was the order of the day. Mental health professionals were about as sympathetic to fervent religious expression then as they are now. There have ALWAYS been nonreligious spouses that have claimed "abandonment" because their wife/husband started attending services with regularity and altered their lifestyle.
Further, the racial mixture of the congregation was a scandal to the sensibilities of the time, particularly with a "semi-literate" black man who was the descendant of former slaves leading the media. The already biased media would have been under no impulse to present an unbiased report about the report, and over sensationizing the activities would have been certain to keep readers returning and the money flowing.
It is equally important to examine the reports of the people who actually attended the meeting. Much of what we see reported by members of the NAR is over-hyped and interprets the events on Azusa Street in of their own doctrines and expectations. However, there were a great many men who visited the revival and founded organizations whose worship styles were consistent with their reports from Azusa Street and generally have remained unchanged since, and resemble nothing similar to the either the NAR or the media at the time claimed.
Men such as Glenn Cook, Frank Ewart, Frank Bartleman, G.T. Haywood, R.E. McCallister, A.J. Tomlinson, William Durham, D.C. Opperman, and others either went to Azusa or were converted by people who had been.
Were there problems in Azusa? Absolutely. The Pentecostal movement was barely six years old at the time, and there were many issues concerning the "rules" that Scripture had laid out that were not yet fully undrestood and applied, leading the early days of Pentecostalism to rather resemble the Corinthian church at the writing of its first epistle. Some of these issues were not entirely resolved in Pentecostal churches until a more systematic teaching on the gifts and their regulation became more normative in the 40s and 50s.
The Azusa Revival burned brightly for only a very short time, roughly about 18 or so months. Before the public found other sensational news for their appetites, and most of the people who had travelled in from other parts during that time took the experience back to their communities to share, thus spreading the fire far from its cradle. The death knell of the revival occurred in approximately 1908 when Seymour locked his church doors against William Durham. Durham opened a church in another section of L.A., took Frank Ewart as his assistant pastor, and their church grew to be a large congregation. By Seymour's death in 1922, his church was less than 50, and the church officially closed after the death of his wife.
Finally, as to the charge of breaching the peace, when has that charge ever NOT been laid at the feet of churches from the days of the Apostles until now? Huss, Tyndale, Luther, Cathars, Waldenses, Zwingli, Menno, Calvin, Knox, Bunyan, Wesley, Whitfield, Edwards, Moody, and Spurgeon were all accused at various points of breaching the peace by their preaching and worship services. However, the same was true also of John, James, Paul, Peter, and JESUS!! You can even trace the accusation back to the prophets as this charge is laid to Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Elijah, Elisha, Micaiah, Amos, and others.
It's notable that the newspaper calls it the Church of the Holy Jumpers. Not many Pentecostal historians pick up on that reference. Molokans are Russians/Armenians who practiced a form of Christianity at odds with Russian Orthodoxy and arguable a kind of proto-Pentecostalism. They were called Molokan Jumpers. They were persecuted in Russia (Tolstoy appears to have supported them) and many emigrated, some to Los Angeles. Azusa Street is in the Molokan neighborhood of LA. It could be said that the Azusa street 'Revival' is actually an adoption by the US underclass of the religion of Russian Molokans. Demos Shakarian, a descendent of these immigrants in California and an important figure in the Latter Rain movement explicitly acknowledges his Molokan roots. This is all relevant to understanding the significance and development of Pentecostalism as a non-elite sect of Christianity appealing to the interests of the relatively powerless. Note that women joined the movement to obtain power and free themselves from their husbands. The NAR today is a rebellion against economic elites, albeit with a contradictory and irrational commitment to a billionaire firmly ensconced in the economic elite although lacking a commitment to the elite's ideology solely because of his own psychopathy.
Look at Mike Bickles hand at the 2:13 mark! Wow! 😮 He is showing us who he is. Proverbs 6:12-19 King James Version 12 A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth.
13 He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his finger…
I was in Foursquare for about 20 years. Not once in all that time did anybody bring up the subject of the Azusa Street Revival's dark side. Azusa was a revered event, as were other dubious manifestation of the Holy Spirit at work, such as the Montanists. "Fairy tale" is an apt description of the average Pentecostal's understanding of the movement's beginnings.
This history of Azusa is critically important for those caught in the pentecostal orientation to be aware.
In my fundamentalist pentecostal upbringing Azusa, Parham, Lake, LRM, etc. were always touted in the most glowing and sacred characterizations – in fact nothing could be further from the truth. These were just more Hinns and Hagins deceiving and be deceived – grifting off the name of Jesus Christ.
This was excellent and much needed. The amount of deception in Church that I’m seeing from those involved in the NAR movement and so-called demon slayers is staggering and alarming.
I read about Azusa in the 90s while attending an AG church. I got out of there after realizing that they would believe anything they were told by any man or woman that would say God told them something. It was sad to see.
Obviously 🙄 a secular rag paper is going to tell lies and smear the move of God. Secular sources from unbelievers are not a good source as to what God did. Read the righting of the men of God involved.
This end time revival will occur but by the power of the Antichrist. The Bible is crystal clear! The men of deception will make sigh, miracles and wonders and will deceive even the elect!!! Those people believe and preach this heresy because they are not from God. End times revival is related to: books, conferences, false importations , on line teachings, all of this is for PERSONAL GAINS … it is not about Jesus !
These displays of this strange behavior isn't like anything that ever happened in the Bible as a result of God's anointing. I don't trust it at all. It sounds more like mass hysteria!
Thanks for another episode!! These are so interesting!!
The gift of tongues in the assembly, the church, is to be decent, in order, and a legitimate language. It is also to be interpreted. My great grandfather once preached a sermon in Mexico in Spanish. He did not know Spanish. It was a genuine and legitimate operation of the gift of tongues. A 14 year old girl whose father i know very well prayed in spanish for a man on the street in the dominican republic. She also did not know spanish and the interpreter and the man bore witness to the fact that she prayed for his exact need. Another legitimate instance. Much of the babbling i hear is not the gift of tongues. But i have experienced the true gift as well. It is always sweet and in order and gives honor to God as people receive legitimate ministry.
Revidol?
Thank you for researching topics we are told to accept on an emotional level. We are told to love God with all of our heart, soul, MIND and strength. If this was revival… no thanks!
Tedious Flimflam. Jesus is DEAD.
First I have heard it. Thanks guys
i dont think there is a problem of praying and asking for Revival, but i dont see it happening as to what i read in the Bible coving End Times Events !!!
I think they confuse the prophesy of a great falling away with some idea that revival will hit. Interesting how confused sin can make people, eh?
The apostolic church needs revival
Holy standards
Holy ghost outpouring
One God
Jesus name baptism
What the apostles were is what we must be
I recall football games when people were caught up in a spirit of the game
Holy ghost expression needs godly revision and order
But the holy ghost given on the day of Pentecost is what God's church must have
As said
I saw people exhausted and barely able to speak over a stupid football game
Loud praise to God is great
The Baptist are dead in praise
But allow shouting at games
I'll take a Holy praise to God every time
The only "revival" we are going to see, is the increase in Gnostic mysticism, falsely calling itself Christianity.
This is NOT an unbiased report and treats the reports of the critics as if they are unbiased fact. The truth is that "objectivity" in media reporting was nearly 40 years away, and muckraking was the order of the day. Mental health professionals were about as sympathetic to fervent religious expression then as they are now. There have ALWAYS been nonreligious spouses that have claimed "abandonment" because their wife/husband started attending services with regularity and altered their lifestyle.
Further, the racial mixture of the congregation was a scandal to the sensibilities of the time, particularly with a "semi-literate" black man who was the descendant of former slaves leading the media. The already biased media would have been under no impulse to present an unbiased report about the report, and over sensationizing the activities would have been certain to keep readers returning and the money flowing.
It is equally important to examine the reports of the people who actually attended the meeting. Much of what we see reported by members of the NAR is over-hyped and interprets the events on Azusa Street in of their own doctrines and expectations. However, there were a great many men who visited the revival and founded organizations whose worship styles were consistent with their reports from Azusa Street and generally have remained unchanged since, and resemble nothing similar to the either the NAR or the media at the time claimed.
Men such as Glenn Cook, Frank Ewart, Frank Bartleman, G.T. Haywood, R.E. McCallister, A.J. Tomlinson, William Durham, D.C. Opperman, and others either went to Azusa or were converted by people who had been.
Were there problems in Azusa? Absolutely. The Pentecostal movement was barely six years old at the time, and there were many issues concerning the "rules" that Scripture had laid out that were not yet fully undrestood and applied, leading the early days of Pentecostalism to rather resemble the Corinthian church at the writing of its first epistle. Some of these issues were not entirely resolved in Pentecostal churches until a more systematic teaching on the gifts and their regulation became more normative in the 40s and 50s.
The Azusa Revival burned brightly for only a very short time, roughly about 18 or so months. Before the public found other sensational news for their appetites, and most of the people who had travelled in from other parts during that time took the experience back to their communities to share, thus spreading the fire far from its cradle. The death knell of the revival occurred in approximately 1908 when Seymour locked his church doors against William Durham. Durham opened a church in another section of L.A., took Frank Ewart as his assistant pastor, and their church grew to be a large congregation. By Seymour's death in 1922, his church was less than 50, and the church officially closed after the death of his wife.
Finally, as to the charge of breaching the peace, when has that charge ever NOT been laid at the feet of churches from the days of the Apostles until now? Huss, Tyndale, Luther, Cathars, Waldenses, Zwingli, Menno, Calvin, Knox, Bunyan, Wesley, Whitfield, Edwards, Moody, and Spurgeon were all accused at various points of breaching the peace by their preaching and worship services. However, the same was true also of John, James, Paul, Peter, and JESUS!! You can even trace the accusation back to the prophets as this charge is laid to Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Elijah, Elisha, Micaiah, Amos, and others.
False teaching will inevitably untether the follower from reality resulting in unbecoming behaviour.
Excellent Video! Thank You for Creating It!! 👍👍
It's notable that the newspaper calls it the Church of the Holy Jumpers. Not many Pentecostal historians pick up on that reference. Molokans are Russians/Armenians who practiced a form of Christianity at odds with Russian Orthodoxy and arguable a kind of proto-Pentecostalism. They were called Molokan Jumpers. They were persecuted in Russia (Tolstoy appears to have supported them) and many emigrated, some to Los Angeles. Azusa Street is in the Molokan neighborhood of LA. It could be said that the Azusa street 'Revival' is actually an adoption by the US underclass of the religion of Russian Molokans. Demos Shakarian, a descendent of these immigrants in California and an important figure in the Latter Rain movement explicitly acknowledges his Molokan roots. This is all relevant to understanding the significance and development of Pentecostalism as a non-elite sect of Christianity appealing to the interests of the relatively powerless. Note that women joined the movement to obtain power and free themselves from their husbands. The NAR today is a rebellion against economic elites, albeit with a contradictory and irrational commitment to a billionaire firmly ensconced in the economic elite although lacking a commitment to the elite's ideology solely because of his own psychopathy.
Excellent video, thank you.
Look at Mike Bickles hand at the 2:13 mark! Wow! 😮 He is showing us who he is.
Proverbs 6:12-19
King James Version
12 A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth.
13 He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his finger…
Yeah, Holly and Doug are in the trenches doing a lot of valuable work by educating folks about the NAR.
I was in Foursquare for about 20 years. Not once in all that time did anybody bring up the subject of the Azusa Street Revival's dark side. Azusa was a revered event, as were other dubious manifestation of the Holy Spirit at work, such as the Montanists. "Fairy tale" is an apt description of the average Pentecostal's understanding of the movement's beginnings.
This history of Azusa is critically important for those caught in the pentecostal orientation to be aware.
In my fundamentalist pentecostal upbringing Azusa, Parham, Lake, LRM, etc. were always touted in the most glowing and sacred characterizations – in fact nothing could be further from the truth. These were just more Hinns and Hagins deceiving and be deceived – grifting off the name of Jesus Christ.
This was excellent and much needed. The amount of deception in Church that I’m seeing from those involved in the NAR movement and so-called demon slayers is staggering and alarming.
Are there more videos like this on different "revivals"?
I thank God I am now over the shock concerning these revivals and the so-called "fathers in the faith". Thank you so much for this exposè.
I read about Azusa in the 90s while attending an AG church. I got out of there after realizing that they would believe anything they were told by any man or woman that would say God told them something. It was sad to see.
The devil loves this. Overthrow the faith of as many as possible. As if Azusa Street was the entire movement. Millions were brought to Jesus.