In this video, I deconstruct the fallout from my exposé on Mike Israetel’s doctoral thesis. Specifically, I offer a point-by-point …
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Chapters: 0:00 Prologue 0:23 Chapter 1. Introduction 2:07 Chapter 2. An Overview of Mike Israetel’s response 2:23 2.1. A brief recap 4:17 2.2. Attacking the messenger 6:43 2.3. Minimizing the message 10:56 Chapter 3. My response to Mike Israetel 11:19 3.1. Refuting the attacks on the messenger 13:04 3.2. Refuting the defences of the thesis 13:17 3.2.1. The ‘⅓ PhD’ defence 15:18 3.2.2. The ‘clerical error’ defence 19:48 3.2.3. The ‘context’ defence 20:59 3.2.4. The ‘my thesis had merit’ defence 23:43 3.3. On Mike Israetel’s conception of ethics 28:12 3.4. On Mike Israetel’s ‘credentials are bull****’ reversal 29:52 3.5. On Mike Israetel’s glaring omission 31:10 Chapter 4. An Overview of Layne Norton’s response 32:19 Chapter 5. My response to Layne Norton 32:30 5.1. Ad hominem and gatekeeping 33:35 5.2. The critic vs the creator fallacy 34:39 5.3. The preemptive ‘hit piece’ 36:56 5.4. Criticism vs ‘cancellation’ 37:31 Chapter 6. Why this matters 39:22 Chapter 7. Conclusion
19:44 "…an attempt to create a plausible-sounding narrative that simply doesnt align with the facts" No wonder Mike is all-in on the reactionary right pseudoscience AI grift bandwagon. thats literally their entire worldview. Superficially intuitive ideas that just dont hold up to scrutiny.
U cnt hate him u gotta !!!! Pitty him look at him tht says it all wth out saying a word 🚽🧻 This is Mike @ 🧻🚽 non knowledge mike Cld live to b 500 he will never no wht I No hands on 38+ yrs my own geni pig Who No s More man in the gym or man behind Desk 💪👊🧠 U No
as a training to be personal trainer, i was struggling to pass my tests, but , since reading the thesis, i never realised bigger athletes are stronger….. insane.. ive been mislead XD
Before this drama i had pretty suspicious attitude towards Mike, a mostly positive one towards Jeff and Layne. Oh boy, things have changed…. (i feel the need to mention Greg is probably at the level of Mike now. Namely, the level of unreliable liers).
Fbi investigating NBA AND UFC for rigging. They are mad they arent the only ones i suppose. We will get no info of significance. Like epstein. This corner of sports science on the internet is coming to terms with corruption as well. I love this all. I love truth. I love people being aware and not so blase towards so much BS.
The way he’s handling this has really led me to lose respect for him… I didn’t even care when his PhD was garbage but the way he’s handling the criticism has made me lose my respect for him
I always love when research is posed with an angry tone. The intro starts off fire, the initial body lays it out, the rest of the body you can feel the heat in the pace and choice of word. “It’s suddenly bullshit”.
I’m not even into the conclusion yet, can’t wait to hear straight fire 😂
This has been a fun series. I’m not a Mike fan but I would find the arguments here even more compelling if you reviewed other exercise science PhD theses to demonstrate what the expectations are for “ground breaking” research. My understanding of academia is that a PhD is only the beginning of your career and not meant to be groundbreaking at all.
Honestly, I watched the video about the essay and the things he mentions are… fair. I didn't see Mike's reply, fair is fair. Then he begins talking about Jeff. And now this. Independently of the validity of your claims, you making money out of """content""" trashing out other people who are actually doing stuff (bad or good, and let's be honest, AT LEAST good, not to mention the best) is just pure parasitic behavior. Latching onto someone who is successful and trying to acquire that by parasocial toxicity. It's the same reason people gossip over celebrities.
As someone with a PhD I can assure you that you know the thesis inside and out before submission. If there are errors they are absolutely minimal because that work is going to get pulled apart when you submit it.
Mikes work is shoddy and doesn't look like it was properly reviewed by anyone (including himself).
the old "credentials are bs" mantra is such a cop out… The bad thing here is, Mike is a proof point of this… that there are people who have credentials who probably shouldn't. I am on the side of the credentialed experts are the ones to listen to as a whole (ie, look to OTHER credentialed experts to validate.)… and ignore those who don't have the credentials. Mike is just embarrassing himself now. I, like MANY others, have lost what little respect we had for him.
Oh, and if he doesn't value "credentials" and thinks they are bs, then Tennessee State should just revoke his PhD. How many people who REALLY want to pursue a true Phd would even want to attend a school that produced an output like this guy?
He lies, a lot. He is part of a growing tribe/cult of other "fitness influencers" who need to be knocked down many pegs.
Soloman, you approached this objectively. Thank you
The more emphatic and more insistent and louder the fitness influencer, the more wrong they are, and less they should be trusted. It’s a simple rule, correct majority of the time.
But you should also explain what are your standards for phd thesis. I am afraid that there is no one, general standard for phd. PhD vary in quality, mainly due to the university quality. His uni is low tier, so his phd is probably low tier as well. I see no scandal. If you apply very high standards to his phd, you are trully doing uncharitable interpretation. We would have scandal if he was claiming that his phd was high tier. But I guess he wasnt doing that (I dont follow him).
Chapters:
0:00 Prologue
0:23 Chapter 1. Introduction
2:07 Chapter 2. An Overview of Mike Israetel’s response
2:23 2.1. A brief recap
4:17 2.2. Attacking the messenger
6:43 2.3. Minimizing the message
10:56 Chapter 3. My response to Mike Israetel
11:19 3.1. Refuting the attacks on the messenger
13:04 3.2. Refuting the defences of the thesis
13:17 3.2.1. The ‘⅓ PhD’ defence
15:18 3.2.2. The ‘clerical error’ defence
19:48 3.2.3. The ‘context’ defence
20:59 3.2.4. The ‘my thesis had merit’ defence
23:43 3.3. On Mike Israetel’s conception of ethics
28:12 3.4. On Mike Israetel’s ‘credentials are bull****’ reversal
29:52 3.5. On Mike Israetel’s glaring omission
31:10 Chapter 4. An Overview of Layne Norton’s response
32:19 Chapter 5. My response to Layne Norton
32:30 5.1. Ad hominem and gatekeeping
33:35 5.2. The critic vs the creator fallacy
34:39 5.3. The preemptive ‘hit piece’
36:56 5.4. Criticism vs ‘cancellation’
37:31 Chapter 6. Why this matters
39:22 Chapter 7. Conclusion
Twin Peaks intro
Love seeing Scott Herman around
No way bro put the throat singing from Dune, "the spice must flow" he said lmao
19:44 "…an attempt to create a plausible-sounding narrative that simply doesnt align with the facts"
No wonder Mike is all-in on the reactionary right pseudoscience AI grift bandwagon. thats literally their entire worldview.
Superficially intuitive ideas that just dont hold up to scrutiny.
U cnt hate him u gotta !!!! Pitty him look at him tht says it all wth out saying a word 🚽🧻 This is Mike @ 🧻🚽 non knowledge mike Cld live to b 500 he will never no wht I No hands on 38+ yrs my own geni pig Who No s More man in the gym or man behind Desk 💪👊🧠
U No
Stop blueballing me Greg
as a training to be personal trainer, i was struggling to pass my tests, but , since reading the thesis, i never realised bigger athletes are stronger….. insane.. ive been mislead XD
Before this drama i had pretty suspicious attitude towards Mike, a mostly positive one towards Jeff and Layne. Oh boy, things have changed…. (i feel the need to mention Greg is probably at the level of Mike now. Namely, the level of unreliable liers).
Fbi investigating NBA AND UFC for rigging. They are mad they arent the only ones i suppose. We will get no info of significance. Like epstein.
This corner of sports science on the internet is coming to terms with corruption as well. I love this all. I love truth. I love people being aware and not so blase towards so much BS.
I think he’s saying credentials shouldn’t mean anything even through they do right now
“Credentials are kind of bullshit”
-starts every episode introducing himself as a Dr.
I slept like a baby falling asleep to solomons voice shitting on mike
The way he’s handling this has really led me to lose respect for him… I didn’t even care when his PhD was garbage but the way he’s handling the criticism has made me lose my respect for him
They are both gear using, conceited, wanna be academic posers.
I ran out of matches to start a fire in my fireplace. Thank God this video was posted. It brought the flame
I always love when research is posed with an angry tone. The intro starts off fire, the initial body lays it out, the rest of the body you can feel the heat in the pace and choice of word. “It’s suddenly bullshit”.
I’m not even into the conclusion yet, can’t wait to hear straight fire 😂
Thank you for your effort.
This has been a fun series. I’m not a Mike fan but I would find the arguments here even more compelling if you reviewed other exercise science PhD theses to demonstrate what the expectations are for “ground breaking” research. My understanding of academia is that a PhD is only the beginning of your career and not meant to be groundbreaking at all.
I did not expect Layne Norton to get dragged into this
This whole thing is wearing thin. How much more back and forth is there going to be?
Honestly, I watched the video about the essay and the things he mentions are… fair. I didn't see Mike's reply, fair is fair.
Then he begins talking about Jeff. And now this.
Independently of the validity of your claims, you making money out of """content""" trashing out other people who are actually doing stuff (bad or good, and let's be honest, AT LEAST good, not to mention the best) is just pure parasitic behavior. Latching onto someone who is successful and trying to acquire that by parasocial toxicity.
It's the same reason people gossip over celebrities.
This is brainrot.
Lisan al gaib
Why the fuck does this other geared up guy sit next to him all the time anways, not saying anything.
Just here to improve my vocabulary 😂
homie has eyes and screencappers in the walls
Idk how solomon only has 87k subscribers with what is going on as of late.
I’m blaming Mike and Jeff as the reason I haven’t been making gains – definitely nothing to do with the fact I don’t go to the gym
Honestly my guy if you were right I'd hope you were wrong 😂.
This could be the driest unnecessarily long shit I've ever seen in my life and I watched Schindlers List ffs 😒
To be curt GET TO THE FUCKING POINT…
5:22 that guy next to Mike looks exactly like is target demographic. Absolutely brain dead
Ngl it feels nice that a lot of the people who dog piled on Jeff Cavalier unjustly are getting a bit of comeuppance
As someone with a PhD I can assure you that you know the thesis inside and out before submission. If there are errors they are absolutely minimal because that work is going to get pulled apart when you submit it.
Mikes work is shoddy and doesn't look like it was properly reviewed by anyone (including himself).
Brother go outlift mike or be better than him in his field ona performance basis
Then talk shit
Love this style of video. Calm. Informed. Organized. Plus dry wit
Objection sustained. The credibility has left the building.
Why does Mike punish himself like this? The money must heal his mental wounds fast
Very respectable breakdown of mike isreatel ive changed my mind on his bullying videos lost its charm
Maybe and I do mean maybe, Mike got that Phd through the homie hook-up 🤔
Wonder if Mike and RFK jr hang out a lot…
the old "credentials are bs" mantra is such a cop out… The bad thing here is, Mike is a proof point of this… that there are people who have credentials who probably shouldn't. I am on the side of the credentialed experts are the ones to listen to as a whole (ie, look to OTHER credentialed experts to validate.)… and ignore those who don't have the credentials. Mike is just embarrassing himself now. I, like MANY others, have lost what little respect we had for him.
Oh, and if he doesn't value "credentials" and thinks they are bs, then Tennessee State should just revoke his PhD. How many people who REALLY want to pursue a true Phd would even want to attend a school that produced an output like this guy?
He lies, a lot. He is part of a growing tribe/cult of other "fitness influencers" who need to be knocked down many pegs.
Soloman, you approached this objectively. Thank you
Brilliant 👌🏾🤌🏾
The more emphatic and more insistent and louder the fitness influencer, the more wrong they are, and less they should be trusted. It’s a simple rule, correct majority of the time.
This drama queen is trying to milk this as long as he can until he fades back into irrelevancy.
He’s officially become Eminem of the fitness game. Nobody dare take on Solomon in a slop battle
You should debate Layne bud. I bet you won’t. Layne would destroy you.
Thank you for making this video! So well-made! "Dr." Mike is such a hypocrite and so full of shit!
Battle of the jews
the girls are fighting
But you should also explain what are your standards for phd thesis. I am afraid that there is no one, general standard for phd. PhD vary in quality, mainly due to the university quality. His uni is low tier, so his phd is probably low tier as well. I see no scandal. If you apply very high standards to his phd, you are trully doing uncharitable interpretation. We would have scandal if he was claiming that his phd was high tier. But I guess he wasnt doing that (I dont follow him).