Prayerfully: if any lacks wisdom, let him pray Clearly: not having uncertain or improper interactions that honours God and the body of Christ Normally: don’t be weird Intentionally: a sense of consistency despite hurdles Purely: treating the other as a brother/sister Familiarly/communally: bringing around family and the body of Christ Permissively: asking for permission or bringing clarity to parents
Im 28, and this is good advice but I just think it’s too much for me to handle. If anyone comes along..im not gonna be proactive. I’ve been burned too much to even want to approach any woman ever again. Ive rejected women the past year in my pursuit of celibacy as a necessity, and i am discouraged ill meet anyone who is aligned with my values, faith and attraction. The hope and assumption in faith that God will just grant me this woman because i still want her, but i refuse to put myself out there anymore, is dead. Rejection has made me full of shame and a woman would have to pick me before i picked her. Ive seen too much. I hope Christ has a woman in mind, but at this point- she may as well never come because i’m not jumping through hoops for a girl who may decide im not enough anyways. Begged God for a way out, im just finished. I wish i could see the issue clearly, im asking for my wife essentially but i dont want to date. Im screwed
Its kinda hard to follow your advise because there are alot of other comments that makes it hard to follow. Its good stuff just stay with some connection to the advice please
We may be putting the cart before the horse. Men would be assuming that there are virtuous women available and interested.
A record-breaking 63% of American men in their 20s are single, almost double the number of women. Of single women, only about 36% of them report that they are interested in a relationship. Only about 2.7% (aggregate of three studies) of women in modernity are considered marriageable by traditional standards. Once you select for shared faith, the number is much lower. If you dare select for purity (which used to be important to Christians) it's a near-zero percentage. While female attraction toward a man can grow with familiarity, women are only initially attracted to about 5% of men (this is why cold approach is dead, and men get very few matches on the apps).
My issue is that Christian channels will give advice setting this standard of perfect holiness before you’re read for a marriage when that wasn’t the standard for any other person who found marriage ever. That’s a warped sense of the world we live in now where everyone thinks you have to have your whole life built out before you can find a partner when you’re traditionally supposed to build a life with your partner. This channel is one of those that specifically has that problem which is why I’m unsubscribing. Sure the easiest answer to “how ti find a partner” is “just be perfect.” Great now how about an answer that a young person other than Jesus could pull off in the modern world.
Most Christian dating and marriage advice as I have observed is relevant to people who are teens – 23 year old range. Most people these days are at least in their 30's and wanting to date and get married. When we are younger we have a very ideological view of dating, relationships, and marriage. When we pass the 30's threshold relationships for us become more transactional – what can you do for me and what can I do for you? Is this a good thing? No, probably not and that's why we should encourage people to marry younger.
My current boyfriend is also the father of my child. I got pregnant before I found Christ and actually gave my life to Christ while I was pregnant, near the end of my pregnancy, and I’m just now getting conviction about our relationship. I’m questioning whether we need to separate or practice celibacy until marriage. Our son is 19 months old, and I don’t want to break up the family but I want to hold Godly values. 🥺
I agree that it does help when someone whether it be your parents, siblings, or same sex friend tells you that you need to marry someone. If you were already feeling that yourself but not verbally saying it that helps to confirm your feelings are right.
We should find another term for a euphemism for sexual intercourse or sexual activity, because intimacy is not correct. Intimacy includes emotional healing and emotional maturity, as well as efficient communication together, whereas sexual intercourse /activity can and is often done without intimacy…
I don’t necessarily love the answer that seems so Flippin of you’re asking the wrong question if you’re wondering, how far is too far. Like I understand the premise, but in general, it just seems very disregarding to somebody who actually wants to honor the Lord. I’ve heard answers before like anything that awakens sexual desire on either side.
I’m saying this as someone who’s never had physical affection by a man.
I have found christian marriage customs are pagan in origin. How much 'ceremony' is actually needed?
GE 2:24 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his woman, and they will become as one flesh.”
If YHWH has ordained that a man and woman are 'one flesh' in His eyes the moment they are 'united' in their own eyes, why the need for all the silly ceremonies and vows of the christian churches and state governments?
Also, I discovered YHWH is a polygynist. He gave many wives to Daviyd…
2SA 12:7 Then Natan said to Daviyd, "You are the man! This is what YHWH, the 'Elohiym of Yisra'el, says: `I anointed you king over Yisra'el, and I delivered you from the hand of Sha'uwl. I gave your master's house to you, and YOUR MASTER'S WOMEN INTO YOUR ARMS. I gave you the house of Yisra'el and Yhuwdah. And if all this had been too little, I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU EVEN MORE.
YHWH gave instructions governing polygyny…
DT 21:15 If a man has two women, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the woman he does not love, when he wills his property to his sons, he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the woman he loves in preference to his actual firstborn, the son of the woman he does not love. He must acknowledge the son of his unloved woman as the firstborn by giving him a double share of all he has. That son is the first sign of his father's strength. The right of the firstborn belongs to him.
YHWH honored men who had many women…
JDG 8:29 Yruwb-Ba`al son of Yow'ash went back home to live. He had seventy sons of his own, for he had MANY WOMEN. His concubine, who lived in Shekem, also bore him a son, whom he named Abiy-Melek. Gid`own, son of Yow'ash, died at a good old age and was buried in the tomb of his father Yow'ash in `Aprah of 'Abiy-ha-`Ezriy.
YHWH appears to know man's nature better than man.
MT 19:7 "Why then," they asked, "did Mosheh instruct that a man give his woman a certificate of divorce and send her away?" Yeshua replied, "Mosheh permitted you to divorce your women because YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD. But it was not this way from the beginning.”
Hard-hearted christian men divorce their women and remarry.
Men of YHWH never divorce and remarry, they just marry another woman.
You christians have borrowed your marriage beliefs and customs straight from the Romans.
Johnny should have like a singles gathering / conference… I don't think married people understand how hard it is to even find a Christian man these days, and I'm sure the men feel the same way about the women. Like this comment to see if Johnny will help us out! LOL! Thank you for everything Johnny!
Thank you all for sharing these great tips which are also Biblically sound. This helps at all ages, you just have to turn the activities into those that you do. I love that you all highlighted that the boyfriend is not the spiritual leader of the girlfriend. We have to observe how the other fosters building their relationship with God individually. These are helpful ❤
That guy saying he didn’t ask out his wife to be his girlfriend is weird. How can you sit there and say its normal to not ask out a girl in a formal way. That’s not being intentional or clear. You’re contradicting yourself. Men should be leaders and lead the woman.
"Nice to meet you, how many kids do you want!" LOL! I think there are certain progressive steps forward in a Christian dating relationships where certain questions are more appropriate, just like certain levels of intimacy and investment between a man and a woman are going to require stricter comittment and clear standards about what's expected in a relationship along with strong and clear biblical boundaries that aren't choking romantic intimacy through legalism.
You're always the perfect parent… until you have a kid.
Principles:
Prayerfully: if any lacks wisdom, let him pray
Clearly: not having uncertain or improper interactions that honours God and the body of Christ
Normally: don’t be weird
Intentionally: a sense of consistency despite hurdles
Purely: treating the other as a brother/sister
Familiarly/communally: bringing around family and the body of Christ
Permissively: asking for permission or bringing clarity to parents
Im 28, and this is good advice but I just think it’s too much for me to handle. If anyone comes along..im not gonna be proactive. I’ve been burned too much to even want to approach any woman ever again. Ive rejected women the past year in my pursuit of celibacy as a necessity, and i am discouraged ill meet anyone who is aligned with my values, faith and attraction. The hope and assumption in faith that God will just grant me this woman because i still want her, but i refuse to put myself out there anymore, is dead. Rejection has made me full of shame and a woman would have to pick me before i picked her. Ive seen too much. I hope Christ has a woman in mind, but at this point- she may as well never come because i’m not jumping through hoops for a girl who may decide im not enough anyways. Begged God for a way out, im just finished. I wish i could see the issue clearly, im asking for my wife essentially but i dont want to date. Im screwed
“Me and Katie“
“Katie and I, sorry”
Get it right 😂😂
Its kinda hard to follow your advise because there are alot of other comments that makes it hard to follow. Its good stuff just stay with some connection to the advice please
Not really agreeing with the ambiguity- go ahead and use the word, 'date' – a first date is different than being exclusive
It is not the most important decision in life though, that is to follow Christ. 🙂
Good frame work
Truth is I have given up 🆙 dating
We may be putting the cart before the horse. Men would be assuming that there are virtuous women available and interested.
A record-breaking 63% of American men in their 20s are single, almost double the number of women. Of single women, only about 36% of them report that they are interested in a relationship. Only about 2.7% (aggregate of three studies) of women in modernity are considered marriageable by traditional standards. Once you select for shared faith, the number is much lower. If you dare select for purity (which used to be important to Christians) it's a near-zero percentage. While female attraction toward a man can grow with familiarity, women are only initially attracted to about 5% of men (this is why cold approach is dead, and men get very few matches on the apps).
My issue is that Christian channels will give advice setting this standard of perfect holiness before you’re read for a marriage when that wasn’t the standard for any other person who found marriage ever. That’s a warped sense of the world we live in now where everyone thinks you have to have your whole life built out before you can find a partner when you’re traditionally supposed to build a life with your partner. This channel is one of those that specifically has that problem which is why I’m unsubscribing. Sure the easiest answer to “how ti find a partner” is “just be perfect.” Great now how about an answer that a young person other than Jesus could pull off in the modern world.
Most Christian dating and marriage advice as I have observed is relevant to people who are teens – 23 year old range. Most people these days are at least in their 30's and wanting to date and get married. When we are younger we have a very ideological view of dating, relationships, and marriage. When we pass the 30's threshold relationships for us become more transactional – what can you do for me and what can I do for you? Is this a good thing? No, probably not and that's why we should encourage people to marry younger.
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My current boyfriend is also the father of my child. I got pregnant before I found Christ and actually gave my life to Christ while I was pregnant, near the end of my pregnancy, and I’m just now getting conviction about our relationship. I’m questioning whether we need to separate or practice celibacy until marriage. Our son is 19 months old, and I don’t want to break up the family but I want to hold Godly values. 🥺
I agree that it does help when someone whether it be your parents, siblings, or same sex friend tells you that you need to marry someone. If you were already feeling that yourself but not verbally saying it that helps to confirm your feelings are right.
Thank you for sharing this, very helpful!
We should find another term for a euphemism for sexual intercourse or sexual activity, because intimacy is not correct. Intimacy includes emotional healing and emotional maturity, as well as efficient communication together, whereas sexual intercourse /activity can and is often done without intimacy…
This video was a divine answer right when I needed it.
Beating myself up over having the courage to say “wanna grab lunch?”
I don’t necessarily love the answer that seems so Flippin of you’re asking the wrong question if you’re wondering, how far is too far. Like I understand the premise, but in general, it just seems very disregarding to somebody who actually wants to honor the Lord. I’ve heard answers before like anything that awakens sexual desire on either side.
I’m saying this as someone who’s never had physical affection by a man.
30:44 so good.
watching the 2 episodes really helped me navigate some confusion I had going on, thank you
I have found christian marriage customs are pagan in origin.
How much 'ceremony' is actually needed?
GE 2:24
“For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his woman, and they will become as one flesh.”
If YHWH has ordained that a man and woman are 'one flesh' in His eyes the moment they are 'united' in their own eyes, why the need for all the silly ceremonies and vows of the christian churches and state governments?
Also, I discovered YHWH is a polygynist. He gave many wives to Daviyd…
2SA 12:7
Then Natan said to Daviyd, "You are the man! This is what YHWH, the 'Elohiym of Yisra'el, says: `I anointed you king over Yisra'el, and I delivered you from the hand of Sha'uwl. I gave your master's house to you, and YOUR MASTER'S WOMEN INTO YOUR ARMS. I gave you the house of Yisra'el and Yhuwdah. And if all this had been too little, I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU EVEN MORE.
YHWH gave instructions governing polygyny…
DT 21:15
If a man has two women, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the woman he does not love, when he wills his property to his sons, he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the woman he loves in preference to his actual firstborn, the son of the woman he does not love. He must acknowledge the son of his unloved woman as the firstborn by giving him a double share of all he has. That son is the first sign of his father's strength. The right of the firstborn belongs to him.
YHWH honored men who had many women…
JDG 8:29
Yruwb-Ba`al son of Yow'ash went back home to live. He had seventy sons of his own, for he had MANY WOMEN. His concubine, who lived in Shekem, also bore him a son, whom he named Abiy-Melek. Gid`own, son of Yow'ash, died at a good old age and was buried in the tomb of his father Yow'ash in `Aprah of 'Abiy-ha-`Ezriy.
YHWH appears to know man's nature better than man.
MT 19:7
"Why then," they asked, "did Mosheh instruct that a man give his woman a certificate of divorce and send her away?" Yeshua replied, "Mosheh permitted you to divorce your women because YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD. But it was not this way from the beginning.”
Hard-hearted christian men divorce their women and remarry.
Men of YHWH never divorce and remarry, they just marry another woman.
You christians have borrowed your marriage beliefs and customs straight from the Romans.
What makes you the authority on dating rules? if anything your advice is subjective.
What’s the previous session about this before this one ?
So if I am in the process of getting to know her, should I ask her father first and ask if I can take his daughter out for e.g a coffee?
Johnny should have like a singles gathering / conference… I don't think married people understand how hard it is to even find a Christian man these days, and I'm sure the men feel the same way about the women. Like this comment to see if Johnny will help us out! LOL! Thank you for everything Johnny!
Thank you all for sharing these great tips which are also Biblically sound. This helps at all ages, you just have to turn the activities into those that you do. I love that you all highlighted that the boyfriend is not the spiritual leader of the girlfriend. We have to observe how the other fosters building their relationship with God individually. These are helpful ❤
Video starts at 4:55
Well I am in my 40s lol
I've just been hanging out around wells with my camels. Am I doing it wrong?
There‘s no Girlfriend-Boyfriend-Thing in Christ!
That guy saying he didn’t ask out his wife to be his girlfriend is weird. How can you sit there and say its normal to not ask out a girl in a formal way. That’s not being intentional or clear. You’re contradicting yourself. Men should be leaders and lead the woman.
"Nice to meet you, how many kids do you want!" LOL! I think there are certain progressive steps forward in a Christian dating relationships where certain questions are more appropriate, just like certain levels of intimacy and investment between a man and a woman are going to require stricter comittment and clear standards about what's expected in a relationship along with strong and clear biblical boundaries that aren't choking romantic intimacy through legalism.
Great content. Would like to hear the other guy speak too
I no longer desire to date or marry. I hate what dating culture has become. I'm fine living single!