Although i am on Trents side of the argument, i gave a little chuckle at “its funny that isnt it” lol just the way you said it! Also, i want to be able to think fast like that.. something that I really admire and strive for
God put us on earth with our own free will he put us in his house gave us food and water since we are not Slaves God is not a slaver he gave us what we need and said do what you want if you think about it we are like baby’s free food free water and shelter if you’re bad you’ll be punished if not you won’t be
Yall God wants whats best for us and if you dont want to be in Gods house then thats cool hes gonna separate you in the end from him just like you wanted. 🤷🏽♀️
Yea the breadcrumbing from god and the oh well I gave you something better, when it was unnecessary and you’d prefer what was undamaged like before so now you’re ungrateful 😂
In Orthodox Christianity, they literally call themselves slaves of God (though “slave” has a broader definition in old slavonic). So this argument wouldn’t be as good as you think, probably
Yeah, chattel slavery is the process of a human being acting like God with horrific results. Human beings didn't create human beings, the world, or have knowledge of all outcomes. God does. Getting mad at God for acting like God makes about as much sense and thinking humans acting like God is somehow ok.
I swear the fact I have to explain this to Atheists is beyond gulling. I truly believe they are either incapable of thinking beyond stage one of their analysis or they are intentionally dishonest in their responses. I'm not sure which is worse.
You're reading the situation upside down. You're forgetting that the ruler over this universe is the devil, not God. This is at least what Jesus said. So, not sure which god you're discussing here.
God literally gave us dominion over everything living and rights to the Earth I'm pretty sure God watches what happens and when he sees someone that has been inconvenienced he compensates us because he loves us. Perfect example would be when Adam and Eve sinned eventually Jesus would come as the perfect sacrifice so then the price of sin would be payed for indefinitely.
I'm sorry, but the microbes and worms will own you.
One day of life is more than God owes anyone. What the atheist calls "slavery", the believer sees as providential care. A trait of unbeliever is they are not thankful – not just to God.
When given life, how can anyone demand compensation? Like reparations for being born?
The catch is that he doesnt see himself as a part of Gods house when biblically, that is not true. (And yes the scripture can be used as a source when someone is arguing for or against morality WITHIN christianity. If us humans were not apart of Gods "house" i.e. we were ever existent and sustained ourselves then yes, Alex's argument would be valid, but as long as that detail isnt the case then the christians argument holds up.
You need to be fair to the argument; theism in general has absolutely no issue with being slaves to God. The name Abdullah literally means slave of God
For the full debate: https://youtu.be/dFYrfKHSV2k
Although i am on Trents side of the argument, i gave a little chuckle at “its funny that isnt it” lol just the way you said it!
Also, i want to be able to think fast like that.. something that I really admire and strive for
You can say God does not own you, but your actions do.
God put us on earth with our own free will he put us in his house gave us food and water since we are not Slaves God is not a slaver he gave us what we need and said do what you want if you think about it we are like baby’s free food free water and shelter if you’re bad you’ll be punished if not you won’t be
It sounds like youre talking about mauii.
Natives had a hard time affording living there before. they are forced to pay more than 7 dollars for milk.
The Barbie movie has a better understanding of god that these guys ever did. Your creator doesn't own you!
Yall God wants whats best for us and if you dont want to be in Gods house then thats cool hes gonna separate you in the end from him just like you wanted. 🤷🏽♀️
Yea the breadcrumbing from god and the oh well I gave you something better, when it was unnecessary and you’d prefer what was undamaged like before so now you’re ungrateful 😂
no nothing can fix suffering
It's difficult for an atheist to argue with someone who cannot accept the fact that the atheist really does not believe in his god.
God: The Ultimate Slave Master.
In Orthodox Christianity, they literally call themselves slaves of God (though “slave” has a broader definition in old slavonic). So this argument wouldn’t be as good as you think, probably
I want to file a lawsuit against rabid looney god. Which court do I go to?
Yeah, chattel slavery is the process of a human being acting like God with horrific results. Human beings didn't create human beings, the world, or have knowledge of all outcomes. God does. Getting mad at God for acting like God makes about as much sense and thinking humans acting like God is somehow ok.
I swear the fact I have to explain this to Atheists is beyond gulling. I truly believe they are either incapable of thinking beyond stage one of their analysis or they are intentionally dishonest in their responses. I'm not sure which is worse.
You're reading the situation upside down. You're forgetting that the ruler over this universe is the devil, not God. This is at least what Jesus said. So, not sure which god you're discussing here.
God literally gave us dominion over everything living and rights to the Earth I'm pretty sure God watches what happens and when he sees someone that has been inconvenienced he compensates us because he loves us. Perfect example would be when Adam and Eve sinned eventually Jesus would come as the perfect sacrifice so then the price of sin would be payed for indefinitely.
I'm sorry, but the microbes and worms will own you.
One day of life is more than God owes anyone. What the atheist calls "slavery", the believer sees as providential care. A trait of unbeliever is they are not thankful – not just to God.
When given life, how can anyone demand compensation? Like reparations for being born?
The catch is that he doesnt see himself as a part of Gods house when biblically, that is not true. (And yes the scripture can be used as a source when someone is arguing for or against morality WITHIN christianity.
If us humans were not apart of Gods "house" i.e. we were ever existent and sustained ourselves then yes, Alex's argument would be valid, but as long as that detail isnt the case then the christians argument holds up.
You need to be fair to the argument; theism in general has absolutely no issue with being slaves to God. The name Abdullah literally means slave of God
So if God can’t make us exist because it’s hard, should mere people not be allowed to procreate?
Alex is a beast.