It’s amazing to me that in this modern age we still have people with their heads this far in the sand and believing religions. It’s like trying to debate flat earthers, Athiests and Scientists tend to come from a place of facts and proven predictions. Flat earthers and religious people come from a place of blind faith and bad science. No matter how many angles you throw out you get a rediculous answer back like some said below “humans can’t win because 2000 years ago Jesus died to absolve us.” Or “the Bible doesn’t condone slavery it only talks about it every other verse and tells you rules for handling and keeping your slaves but condone? No never.” The amount of delusional hoops religious people have to jump through to stay in their little echo chamber is mind boggling.
As to the clip shown I bet the presenter and the host of this channel think they did a great job and sure showed Tony some real good proofs.
Re the comment about needing signs and wonders to persuade, "[a]nd he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, if one rise from the dead." Luke 16:31.
So much murder pillage and war in the bible. Just like all religions they are tools created by humans to control other humans. eg. Kings to rule over his people, wage wars and steal power.
Hahah…The idea of many gods plus their counsel came from demonology that originated in witchcraft which is basically a game that uses story telling and twisting it until the participants are satisfied with it's ending, it's a story game that's why it is written as scrolls. Hahah…It's a game of stretching a story like brain storming in movie making.
Why is there so much use of the word "belief"? A belief is of value only to the believer himself. Only "knowledge" ever has any value for everyone.
To base one's argumentation on texts written over 2,000 years ago by numerous unknown authors, trasncribed and translated multiple times as well as modified according to personal beliefs ad/orpersonal agenda is quite weak. Interpreting those texts is paramount to disinformation raised to the power of 3.
If Terek is a doctor, anyone is! Defender of the faith? Since when TRUTH ever needed to be defended? It is like me.
This is what is get me when it comes to be truthful. When the non-Christian bring the text when Jesus Christ clearly said that he will be back before all the things that he's telling them not happen. Right away the Christians created excuses and excuses , they bring the subject of the 70 ada year, the fall of Jerusalem. It is very clear that Jesus prophecy that he was going to be back before all the things that he described it would ending happen. And that is the real truth on the Bible, and that didn't happen.
If we use common sense we should based the truth on evidence. For a sample I have two cars, I can take you in front of those two cars, show you the paperwork that they are my cars and and you can see and touch these cars. The fact that people write things does not make that writing a true statement.
What is hilarious, is that definitive answers are never given, most of the time they ask a question instead. The reason this is done, because they don't have an answer, they rely solely on the word of people long dead, that claim the wrote for god, when most of the bible is rehashed older stories from a different region. What many theists don't want to admit is the numerous things that were gotten so very wrong in the Bible, amd instead of addressing those, they turn to archeology studies of places and things! Instead of just proving their God exists, they deflect in so many different ways, amd that is because they can't prove this being exists at all, and they fear they live in for this is astounding!
@freddy…sorry, disagree. First, find out WHY he's asking? Eg. wants to follow but hindered? Or, THAT'S another reason? I'd say not searching. Requires different kind of answer. 5:51
In the audience, as people listen to this conversation they'll learn from what both people say as they discuss these questions. I believe God uses every opportunity like this to draw people to Himself. Sceptics and people who want conclusive proof may never come to Christ but people in the room listening will hear God speaking to them and some(God willing) may be saved
Give it up man, the bible as been torn to pieces, and they always come up with explanations why they said what they said, we live in the 21st century, it's all category grade A bullshit
Pal you only believe in God because you are scared of death, when the lights go out they go out that's it, we're not that special mate, you like to thing we are but we are not….plus its not a case in I DONT WANT TO BELIEVE its just not true becaue I have an IQ above 75
Tony spoke the most sense in this 14.51 video clip. Nobody listened to him, including you.
African is full oh witches
Jesus is not God but the son of God!! He said it himself
It’s amazing to me that in this modern age we still have people with their heads this far in the sand and believing religions. It’s like trying to debate flat earthers, Athiests and Scientists tend to come from a place of facts and proven predictions. Flat earthers and religious people come from a place of blind faith and bad science. No matter how many angles you throw out you get a rediculous answer back like some said below “humans can’t win because 2000 years ago Jesus died to absolve us.” Or “the Bible doesn’t condone slavery it only talks about it every other verse and tells you rules for handling and keeping your slaves but condone? No never.” The amount of delusional hoops religious people have to jump through to stay in their little echo chamber is mind boggling.
As to the clip shown I bet the presenter and the host of this channel think they did a great job and sure showed Tony some real good proofs.
Re the comment about needing signs and wonders to persuade, "[a]nd he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, if one rise from the dead." Luke 16:31.
Very disappointed to see so many antichrists in the comments. I’ll pray for you to find Jesus. He loves you and misses you
What he meant was 2000 years ago was
Jews themselves claimed they created Jesus for us so they can do their dirty work on this planet.
Proud to be Indian 🇮🇳 Christian 😎😎✊🏼
So much murder pillage and war in the bible. Just like all religions they are tools created by humans to control other humans. eg. Kings to rule over his people, wage wars and steal power.
https://youtu.be/AtIVi9pCcNQ?si=51l36NaDx6nMSItR
Why isnt rape in the ten commandments but theft is? I guess property is more important?
OK if there god why is the world full unhappiness then
Hahah…The idea of many gods plus their counsel came from demonology that originated in witchcraft which is basically a game that uses story telling and twisting it until the participants are satisfied with it's ending, it's a story game that's why it is written as scrolls. Hahah…It's a game of stretching a story like brain storming in movie making.
Tony showed how much of a snake oil salesman frank truly is.
Why is there so much use of the word "belief"?
A belief is of value only to the believer himself.
Only "knowledge" ever has any value for everyone.
To base one's argumentation on texts written over 2,000 years ago by numerous unknown authors, trasncribed and translated multiple times as well as modified according to personal beliefs ad/orpersonal agenda is quite weak.
Interpreting those texts is paramount to disinformation raised to the power of 3.
If Terek is a doctor, anyone is!
Defender of the faith?
Since when TRUTH ever needed to be defended?
It is like me.
I Am Which I Am!
Jesus is coming, look busy!
It’s all just claims written in a superstitious old book
This is what is get me when it comes to be truthful. When the non-Christian bring the text when Jesus Christ clearly said that he will be back before all the things that he's telling them not happen. Right away the Christians created excuses and excuses , they bring the subject of the 70 ada year, the fall of Jerusalem. It is very clear that Jesus prophecy that he was going to be back before all the things that he described it would ending happen. And that is the real truth on the Bible, and that didn't happen.
If we use common sense we should based the truth on evidence. For a sample I have two cars, I can take you in front of those two cars, show you the paperwork that they are my cars and and you can see and touch these cars. The fact that people write things does not make that writing a true statement.
The preacher believes in the bs of yhe bible ..got caught in the lie about giants , still going
Amazing way of evading ..go for it Frank ,,, pretty weak
What is hilarious, is that definitive answers are never given, most of the time they ask a question instead. The reason this is done, because they don't have an answer, they rely solely on the word of people long dead, that claim the wrote for god, when most of the bible is rehashed older stories from a different region.
What many theists don't want to admit is the numerous things that were gotten so very wrong in the Bible, amd instead of addressing those, they turn to archeology studies of places and things! Instead of just proving their God exists, they deflect in so many different ways, amd that is because they can't prove this being exists at all, and they fear they live in for this is astounding!
"most intellects do not believe in God but the fear is just the same"
@freddy…sorry, disagree. First, find out WHY he's asking? Eg. wants to follow but hindered? Or, THAT'S another reason?
I'd say not searching. Requires different kind of answer. 5:51
Excellent and perfectly lines up with end times prophecy. Not metaphor.
In the audience, as people listen to this conversation they'll learn from what both people say as they discuss these questions. I believe God uses every opportunity like this to draw people to Himself. Sceptics and people who want conclusive proof may never come to Christ but people in the room listening will hear God speaking to them and some(God willing) may be saved
Give it up man, the bible as been torn to pieces, and they always come up with explanations why they said what they said, we live in the 21st century, it's all category grade A bullshit
Pal you only believe in God because you are scared of death, when the lights go out they go out that's it, we're not that special mate, you like to thing we are but we are not….plus its not a case in I DONT WANT TO BELIEVE its just not true becaue I have an IQ above 75
Deflection is the only thing i saw from Turek.
Tony is finally seeing sense after being indoctrinated by nonsense. Well done, Tony!