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it's always been so crazy to me that love could be a sin. I think most christians don't even realize gay people fall in love, they just think about the sexual aspect of it.
First thing that upsets me is that the “gay man in prison“ narrative. He wasn't in prison because he was gay, and he wasn't in prison because he was a sinner, and he wasn't gay because he was not a good enough christian. Anti-homo propaganda LOVES painting gays as immoral criminals. And then they find Jesus, and BOOM no longer a criminal gay. The main reason it's so important that LGBTQIA+ people are visible in society, visible to KIDS, is to show them that it's possible to be gay or trans and live a happy, healthy life.
11:22 it's ridiculous to assume that saying “i am gay“ makes it your entire identity. Neither does “i am tired“ or “i am 33 years old“ or “i am a lawyer“ or “i am a husband“ or “i am sick with the flu“. You can have a LOT of identities. Newly discovered ones are the focus of your attention for a while, that's normal. After that, they fade into the background. I don't spend all day thinking about being gay, unless it comes up. Being gay is just one of my boring old identity parts that are fully integrated with my concept of self. Yawn.
People are born with their sexual orientation already in place; they have no choice in the matter. Trying to pretend to be something you’re not isn’t a very good road to travel
It's crazy to think just two months ago I was seriously thinking about getting this "course" in hopes it would placate my homosexual feelings. Seeing this video makes me incredibly glad I finally accepted myself, seeing how ridiculous these "conversion" programs really are.
Well… genesis says we were created male and female, so both, like Jesus was human and god, until that human in the image of god had its half taken and was named adam while the other was named eve. We weren’t created as separate oposits. We were created human and later got redefined as men and women.
52:00 it's such a sad belief system to be made to believe that you are undeserving and worth of condemnation, born a sinner, all that stuff. It's so harmful. People are worthy of love, each of you, you are lovable because you are a person, you deserve human rights and a nice life simply for existing, no matter who you are and whom you love. <3
56:00 i am even more worried about people who genuinely think the thought of doing something is as bad as doing something. By that logic, if you are already a sinner, you might as well do it, right?! If you'll be just as sinful and in need of forgiveness for thinking about undressing someone, why not do it for real?! This would be all fine as long as it's consensual, but if your moral compass puts the same amount of SIN on “lusting after your girlfriend who is also into you“ as it does on “being sexual with someone against their will“, then you may not stop yourself from doing the latter because you're a sinner either way. That is scary. Thoughts are NOT actions. Thinking about someone in as sexualized way without them ever knowing about it does NOT have a negative impact on them (it might if they knew), ACTUALLY doing something (against their will) does.
59:05 i always take this bible verse to mean “people's bodies are all different. sex with a cis man is different from sex with a cis woman, so LEARN how to do it well, and don't try to put the idea of heterosexual sex onto gay sex 😛
It occurs to me that it's kinda odd how anti-homo people rant about how gay people make it their whole identity, and then turn around and do extensive funding for a program that focuses on i'm-not-gay. Talking about being gay even more than gay people do is an accomplishment. PSA: If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. And then proceed to live your life. You will see way less gay stuff if you stop fixating and stopping the gay agenda. If you don't like content, just skip it. You don't HAVE to look at gay people doing gay stuff, you can always scroll or walk past it and not let it touch your life. That's what i do about things i don't like. I can't people not to be or do things, but i can choose to surround myself with stuff i like instead. It's WAY more rewarding if you start a youtube channel about fishing or motorcycles or crochet or whatever other passion you have, than to pour all that creativity into hating something that you can not change in other people.
1:23:13 PSA: You can have children if you are gay. You can have children if you are trans. You can have children if you are single. There are ways, and they open up more and more. <3
WOW!! This particular dude's series and your treatment of it was incredibly healing for me. For whatever reason, I was able to actually listen (without panicking) to mr. dude present his "lessons" and, for the first time, clearly identify the inconsistencies. Then, to have that backed up and elaborated on by your analyses was powerful! I especially appreciated your repeated examples of ways we were taught extremely homophobic, shame-inducing, and fear-ridden rhetoric without the need for those things to be explicitly stated. This is so hard to describe to people, both inside and outside of this church model. Even well-meaning non-religious folks will be confused, "So, they literally SAID that?" and sometimes it's yes, but often it's no. Yet all the while I'm sitting here with an industrial sized dumpster full of metaphors, stories, emotional appeals, cherry picking, circular logic, false dichotomies, all of which could ONLY lead to the conclusion that anything outside of total abstinence (including mentally) before heterosexual marriage is shameful and abhorrent to God and that I fundamentally suck. Thanks for giving me some language around that, specifically. Thank you for your whole treatment of this. I am sincerely grateful!
I believe I have stumbled across the side of YouTube that I would rather not see. I have no idea how this came up on my for you page, but it is very funny to see your comments.
Did he spend 1.2 mil to make this? Or did they give 20 bucks to some dude with Microsoft 365 to make a slide show & take that other $99,999,980 as a paycheck for all his hard work spewing bullshit & traumatizing children?
The way Yuan describes his prison sentence as some sort of divine plan from god and not as an objective wrongdoing by his government that put a functioning member of society behind bars for years over a weed charge is amazing to me. Weed is legal in multiple states and claims against it were debunked as soon as they were made. His analogies of prisoners being human garbage while many of them are in there for the same trumped up charges shows such a lack of reflection. This was clearly a man put in a desperate situation by a behind the times government and in his moments of desperation was taken advantage of by religious rhetoric. How he can’t put together the picture is a living testament to deep denial.
Normal countries have mostly banned gay conversion nonsense. When will the USA join civilisation? And I know it's not all USA'ers. You deserve a better country than the current car crash.
The attitude homophobic Christians have towards people saying 'I am gay' is so bizarre. When I say that I am tall, do they think I am saying that I identify with being tall over anything else, that I identify with being tall more than I identify as a child of God?
His story has so many holes. Where and how did he hide 9 tons of marijuana at his home? The trash bible story is "what?". Does he even have HIV or he just made that up to appear more sympathetic?
look, great video, but you really need to consult with more trans people whenever you cover that topic
first of all, many hjiras do refer to themselves as women, the third sexing is a product of the patriarchal society in that part of the world. Denying this is a kind of orientalism secondly, gnc does not equal trans. Do not conflate the two thirdly, sex does not equal gender, yes, but assigned sex at birth is not immutable! By taking HRT and having surgeries done, trans people alter there secondary and primary sex characteristics to allign with those typical for their gender. This is ultimately synonymous with changing sex, since the only other indicator of sex (chromosomes) is rendered completely irrelevant
I hope that guy doesn't eat shellfish, cause he sure as hell is clean shaven. I bet he eats pork too. These are all sins talked about in leviticus where the whole abomination against god comes from. It's wild to me that we pick and choose what sins are worse even though all sins are wrong in the eyes of God.
Thank you so much for making this video. As the mom of a 19 year old trans girl, this is vitally important. I really hope it at least reaches the right people.
What i never understood, is that IF "God" made us all in his image then that means Gods got that phat ass and dig bick. It also means that he made you the way you are, so how can it be wrong? are people suggesting that God made a mistake when he made the gays cause you cant have it both ways. Either we are ALL in his image, or we are not all in his image.
53:11 as someone with horrendous intrusive thoughts from my vARious mental disabilities, this is a thought I’ve had to beat out of myself, because I am a good person and those thoughts do not define the actions I will take or my morals
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This guy got less prison time due to good deeds in custody lol..
It took me a while.. this guy went to my church as a guest speaker once couple years ago.. yeah stopped going
it's always been so crazy to me that love could be a sin. I think most christians don't even realize gay people fall in love, they just think about the sexual aspect of it.
This guy is such a hypocrite
First thing that upsets me is that the “gay man in prison“ narrative. He wasn't in prison because he was gay, and he wasn't in prison because he was a sinner, and he wasn't gay because he was not a good enough christian.
Anti-homo propaganda LOVES painting gays as immoral criminals. And then they find Jesus, and BOOM no longer a criminal gay.
The main reason it's so important that LGBTQIA+ people are visible in society, visible to KIDS, is to show them that it's possible to be gay or trans and live a happy, healthy life.
11:22 it's ridiculous to assume that saying “i am gay“ makes it your entire identity.
Neither does “i am tired“ or “i am 33 years old“ or “i am a lawyer“ or “i am a husband“ or “i am sick with the flu“.
You can have a LOT of identities. Newly discovered ones are the focus of your attention for a while, that's normal. After that, they fade into the background. I don't spend all day thinking about being gay, unless it comes up. Being gay is just one of my boring old identity parts that are fully integrated with my concept of self. Yawn.
The flip flop on the sanctity of marriage made me laugh out loud multiple times. This Dr. Yuan fella can't get his opinion straight it seems like
People are born with their sexual orientation already in place; they have no choice in the matter. Trying to pretend to be something you’re not isn’t a very good road to travel
It's crazy to think just two months ago I was seriously thinking about getting this "course" in hopes it would placate my homosexual feelings. Seeing this video makes me incredibly glad I finally accepted myself, seeing how ridiculous these "conversion" programs really are.
Well… genesis says we were created male and female, so both, like Jesus was human and god, until that human in the image of god had its half taken and was named adam while the other was named eve. We weren’t created as separate oposits. We were created human and later got redefined as men and women.
52:00 it's such a sad belief system to be made to believe that you are undeserving and worth of condemnation, born a sinner, all that stuff.
It's so harmful.
People are worthy of love, each of you, you are lovable because you are a person, you deserve human rights and a nice life simply for existing, no matter who you are and whom you love. <3
Love your content man but damn bold of you to upload a 2.5 hour video in a universe where peoples attention spans are going 📉📉📉📉
56:00 i am even more worried about people who genuinely think the thought of doing something is as bad as doing something. By that logic, if you are already a sinner, you might as well do it, right?! If you'll be just as sinful and in need of forgiveness for thinking about undressing someone, why not do it for real?!
This would be all fine as long as it's consensual, but if your moral compass puts the same amount of SIN on “lusting after your girlfriend who is also into you“ as it does on “being sexual with someone against their will“, then you may not stop yourself from doing the latter because you're a sinner either way.
That is scary. Thoughts are NOT actions. Thinking about someone in as sexualized way without them ever knowing about it does NOT have a negative impact on them (it might if they knew), ACTUALLY doing something (against their will) does.
59:05 i always take this bible verse to mean “people's bodies are all different. sex with a cis man is different from sex with a cis woman, so LEARN how to do it well, and don't try to put the idea of heterosexual sex onto gay sex 😛
It occurs to me that it's kinda odd how anti-homo people rant about how gay people make it their whole identity, and then turn around and do extensive funding for a program that focuses on i'm-not-gay. Talking about being gay even more than gay people do is an accomplishment.
PSA: If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. And then proceed to live your life. You will see way less gay stuff if you stop fixating and stopping the gay agenda. If you don't like content, just skip it. You don't HAVE to look at gay people doing gay stuff, you can always scroll or walk past it and not let it touch your life. That's what i do about things i don't like. I can't people not to be or do things, but i can choose to surround myself with stuff i like instead. It's WAY more rewarding if you start a youtube channel about fishing or motorcycles or crochet or whatever other passion you have, than to pour all that creativity into hating something that you can not change in other people.
1:23:13 PSA: You can have children if you are gay. You can have children if you are trans. You can have children if you are single. There are ways, and they open up more and more. <3
WOW!! This particular dude's series and your treatment of it was incredibly healing for me. For whatever reason, I was able to actually listen (without panicking) to mr. dude present his "lessons" and, for the first time, clearly identify the inconsistencies. Then, to have that backed up and elaborated on by your analyses was powerful! I especially appreciated your repeated examples of ways we were taught extremely homophobic, shame-inducing, and fear-ridden rhetoric without the need for those things to be explicitly stated. This is so hard to describe to people, both inside and outside of this church model. Even well-meaning non-religious folks will be confused, "So, they literally SAID that?" and sometimes it's yes, but often it's no. Yet all the while I'm sitting here with an industrial sized dumpster full of metaphors, stories, emotional appeals, cherry picking, circular logic, false dichotomies, all of which could ONLY lead to the conclusion that anything outside of total abstinence (including mentally) before heterosexual marriage is shameful and abhorrent to God and that I fundamentally suck. Thanks for giving me some language around that, specifically. Thank you for your whole treatment of this. I am sincerely grateful!
This guy literally came to my school and spoke during a assembly 😭
I felt the holy spirit coming inside of me
I believe I have stumbled across the side of YouTube that I would rather not see. I have no idea how this came up on my for you page, but it is very funny to see your comments.
i'm ex gay
Did he spend 1.2 mil to make this? Or did they give 20 bucks to some dude with Microsoft 365 to make a slide show & take that other $99,999,980 as a paycheck for all his hard work spewing bullshit & traumatizing children?
Why is there no religion conversion therapy? Religious nutters converting to normal people?
"I applied to Moody Bible Institute and amazingly, I was accepted."
Moody has a 94% acceptance rate. I'm pretty sure a dog could apply and have a good shot at getting in.
The way Yuan describes his prison sentence as some sort of divine plan from god and not as an objective wrongdoing by his government that put a functioning member of society behind bars for years over a weed charge is amazing to me. Weed is legal in multiple states and claims against it were debunked as soon as they were made. His analogies of prisoners being human garbage while many of them are in there for the same trumped up charges shows such a lack of reflection. This was clearly a man put in a desperate situation by a behind the times government and in his moments of desperation was taken advantage of by religious rhetoric. How he can’t put together the picture is a living testament to deep denial.
Normal countries have mostly banned gay conversion nonsense. When will the USA join civilisation? And I know it's not all USA'ers. You deserve a better country than the current car crash.
great video, Drew!
I am outside the US. It is SO alien to me that some take any advice or idea from the bible, that all this conversation is… surreal.
"Holy sexuality Batman!" Yeah….Genetically, you give this guy too much leeway and credit. More like holy crap.
Cthulhu doesn't care about your sexuality!
The attitude homophobic Christians have towards people saying 'I am gay' is so bizarre. When I say that I am tall, do they think I am saying that I identify with being tall over anything else, that I identify with being tall more than I identify as a child of God?
His story has so many holes. Where and how did he hide 9 tons of marijuana at his home? The trash bible story is "what?". Does he even have HIV or he just made that up to appear more sympathetic?
Children, maybe…
Idk about God.
look, great video, but you really need to consult with more trans people whenever you cover that topic
first of all, many hjiras do refer to themselves as women, the third sexing is a product of the patriarchal society in that part of the world. Denying this is a kind of orientalism
secondly, gnc does not equal trans. Do not conflate the two
thirdly, sex does not equal gender, yes, but assigned sex at birth is not immutable! By taking HRT and having surgeries done, trans people alter there secondary and primary sex characteristics to allign with those typical for their gender. This is ultimately synonymous with changing sex, since the only other indicator of sex (chromosomes) is rendered completely irrelevant
I have no idea how can you even put up with watching all of that crap. I get physically uncomfortable.
Satan sounds cool as fuck, like a secret agent or assassin
As a wise man once said; "I WANT JESUS HEART SURGERY."
I hope that guy doesn't eat shellfish, cause he sure as hell is clean shaven. I bet he eats pork too. These are all sins talked about in leviticus where the whole abomination against god comes from. It's wild to me that we pick and choose what sins are worse even though all sins are wrong in the eyes of God.
44:51 Literary interpretation on a translated and copied, is simply walking into Mordor.
Thank you so much for making this video. As the mom of a 19 year old trans girl, this is vitally important. I really hope it at least reaches the right people.
Biting Yuan biting Yuan biting Yuan biting him biting him biting him biting him
What i never understood, is that IF "God" made us all in his image then that means Gods got that phat ass and dig bick. It also means that he made you the way you are, so how can it be wrong? are people suggesting that God made a mistake when he made the gays cause you cant have it both ways. Either we are ALL in his image, or we are not all in his image.
I feel like the conversion therapy doesn't really make you straight, it just makes you hate yourself.
Really stretching the 8 minute mark
How can Christopher Yuan not even pronounce his own name correctly tf
53:11 as someone with horrendous intrusive thoughts from my vARious mental disabilities, this is a thought I’ve had to beat out of myself, because I am a good person and those thoughts do not define the actions I will take or my morals
Is it a sin to be born with Klinefelter's syndrome?
20:24 Finally a good character in this story